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Sonja Visscher Cats vegan?!? Your cat is not vegan if it goes outdoors! Guarantee it’s catching prey like small mice, birds, etc. Its their instinct. You can’t change that. We’ve domesticated our animals, but we can’t change their anatomy. They are built like carnivores /omnivores and we should not deprive them of the food they would naturally eat in the wild. It’s not the meat that is causing them alarming rates of cancer, it’s the over vaccination and GMOs. The dogs I had when growing up all lived 14yrs*+ on crappy kibble that I would never feed my dog now. And, you know what? Not one ever got cancer. However, since our introduction of GMOs in the 90’s, cancer in dogs has climbed to a staggering 1 in 1.68 today! I’m one of those dog owners who is vegan, but will not subject my dog to a vegan diet. He may survive but he won’t thrive. I believe in feeding a species appropriate diet. My dog caught and ate a small bird in front of me. Do I dare scold him for his instinctual behavior? No! So why force an inappropriate diet on him? Our pets are at our mercy and rely on us to protect and nourish them. Until I see proof that they can thrive on a vegan diet, I won’t subject my dog to it. Even pets on vegan kibble are getting cancer! Maybe an organic vegetarian home-cooked diet will work, but there arent any long term studies. And, yes I heard about that one dog who lived a super long life being vegetarian, but was he vegan? People are not looking all the factors that contributed to it’s long life—less/no vaccines, increased exercise, proper weight, reduced exposure to chemicals, etc! I want to see studies on the masses before i put my dog on a vegan diet, because there is always an anomaly.

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Noelle Obcarskas this looks like a paste of a ramble i have seen before...maybe not. anyway. 1st my cat is indoor cat only out briefly as in those this am pictures under supervision so not catching birds mice to eat. 2nd there are 20 year old vegan cats around this pic black cat is in her 21st year the siamese died a few days before his 20th birthday peacefullly both vet tested healthy during their lives. an average siamese lives 13 years qed end of matter. do not need humans to kill unnaturally produced suffering freak animals ? i do not do it.. i am vegan. animals are not OURS to use is the 1st principle. and no these cats are not anomalies or supernatural beings just cats

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Noelle Obcarskas ps i do not FORCE FEED My dogs or cat lol. i put food in a dish that they love to eat. they have no idea what the inert food humans put in their plates are and care even less. However....i would be FORCING DEATH on this turkey if I decided to kill her to feed a pet preferred cat or dog. oh this one was called xmas...she died anyway age 1 year old suffered all her unnatural life bred to suffer heavy unable to fly as turkeys can naturally. do not talk to me about "natural" this animal like all human bred animals are not natural. nothing more unnatural than a hairless ape human feeding a cat or a dog. no animal in nature does that for the entire life of another species of animal. that is as unnatural as it gets. what food we hairless biped apes put in their plates...another unnatural human lifestyle thing....is trivia in comparison

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Noelle Obcarskas ps the term "species appropriate" is btw fyi exactly what any cat or dog food has to be to have the words cat food on the labels when sold to the public. So using that term be careful....if talking the LAW or fantasies.

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Noelle Obcarskas Words like...COMPLETE also are a legal matter on pet food labels. There is a range of laws regulations about what can be put on pet foods that have to comply with "species appropriate" and "digestibility" etc issues for the stated species and age of the animal the pet food label states it is for.

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Noelle Obcarskas ppss the dog you mention and did not know much about...good point...the dog was a SHE. A welsh border colley rescue. Her name was BRAMBLE. Lived 25 years on a home made vegan diet by a woman still alive today called ANNE HERITAGE ! lol ! she sure got mad at me btw ! pissed her off bigtime when i did a facebook page on Bramble ! anyway she had several other dogs who fed the same home made stuff at the time lived also spectacular long lives. Now she grew her own veggies i add....and there is where she and I do not agree.....i say....an orange today has 1/8 of what an orange had 30 years ago in vitamin c. So ? all those minerals and vitamins in home made not commercial carefully prepared pet foods today are SHEIT. IMHO of course. My relatives peasants NEVER fed MEAT to our high energy hunting dogs just boiled pastas etc veggie slops like the pigs got....and they sure were high energy. Oh they never bought PET FOOD lol....thought I was an idiot and had too much money to waste that on dogs

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Noelle Obcarskas yeah....if you read some previous comments...you will see the SPAT i got involved in on this post about some SHE wolves matter more than MALE wolf leaders ref this Anne Heritage person. Anyway. Have a good read and hopefully listen to the talks.

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Noelle Obcarskas And oh...i had no CHOICE about putting my dog on vegan diet or not....not that i objected....she had stomac ulcers....caused by acidity stomac produces to digest flesh. Breed high risk stomac cancer....relatives dying of that ....no brainer. I had 2 dogs by then and sod feeding the pup differently ....and he grew into the biggest belgian shepherd in the world on his vegan diet to the HORROR of the breeders and envy i add...anyway..the bitch became FCI CIE International Grand Champion and the male the biggest monster belgian shepherd in the world. Both different parentages i add but hey the pedigree world in so inbred they do have common ancestors.

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Noelle Obcarskas However i had NO worries about putting my cat on a vegan diet. Vegan Cat food exist ? end of problem for me. Not into looking for problems.

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Noelle Obcarskas And lets get real.....my cat would be DEAD by now long ago if not getting the nutrients she needs. I don't need the 21 year old cat examples myself. Lasted longer than my sick poor turkey hen hey.

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Noelle Obcarskas no vaccines....lol...well tell that to the people in France with loads of DEAD OF PIROPLASMOSE dogs....tic bourne disease...no vaccines for it in the UK...even VACCINATED dogs can get it but the symptoms reduced and easier to treat MAYBE but dogs die in 48 hours last i saw of that disease...I VACCINATED ! as i did against LYME...a malaria painful recurring disease common in the nordics..humans there get it even....no vaccines for that in the uk either. My dogs got kennel cough...in spite of vaccines. I agree rabies not needed every year or other vaccines the same....but i would have lost my dogs to piroplasmose or lyme or even leishmaniose had they not had vaccines. Bitch got ehrlichose....no vaccine...nearly died.

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Noelle Obcarskas dogs do not die if adult of kennel cough. waste of time vaccine except legal need if in a boarding kennel.

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Noelle Obcarskas My issue with home made...is the same as in the German Vegan Dogs and Cats group....putting veggies etc in meals is good idea...but add the commercially prepared supplements. The days of not Achilles but Anne Heritage are over....in that the gmo and pesticides and reduction in vitamins and minerals in veggies we buy off supermarkets or even in pik your own fields are SHEIT compared to the 70's and before then

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Noelle Obcarskas And all FLESH of farmed animals is also SHEIT today ....hasn't even got enough taurine in it...full of processed GMO the farm animals get fed...so lets not talk about SOY SCARES hey...the soy farmed animals are fed if a dog eats that flesh is GMO the sheitest ! Then come the fertiliser chemicals...all that SHEIT processed into FLESH put into pet foods....no way hosay. I BUY ORGANIC BENEVO for my dogs and the COMPASSION CIRCLE LENTILS recipy if I use ORGANIC costs me 5 GBP PER DAY TO FEED MY DOGS ! EEEEEEK ! that is pricey....that is the cat's favorite recipy I add too....and NON ORGANIC lentils are much cheaper of course. Oh well. oh peas loved by my kitten..this was MY pea soup

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Noelle Obcarskas eeek my sludge attempt at the organic lentils soupy compassion circle recipy. blew up 2 pressure cookers trying this.

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Sonja Visscher Noelle Obcarskas I ramble? Hahaha! Look in the mirror. STOP!

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Sonja Visscher Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

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Noelle Obcarskas Sonja Visscher LOL jaja oh i am verbose. I just like to share stuff. As i said...i didn't do any research for either my dogs or cat. Saw vegan cat food ? bought it. Same for the dogs. All the reading came afterwards. Vet had prescribed some expensive royal canin vegetarian dog food

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Noelle Obcarskas so when i found out vegan dog food was around and it was cheaper than prescription one....no brainer. Cat food had COMPLETE and word CAT on it ? ok with me. See words like ORGANIC and GMO FREE ? ok with me !

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Noelle Obcarskas Now you can imagine...why i am BANNED in the VEGAN DOG NUTRITION groups lol ! hilarious !

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Noelle Obcarskas Anyway I shall cease hoping the talkers do not put your to sleep. I have a great problem staying awake in ANY talks I add lol ! but...seeing that you were needing as you stated more long term studies....I thought well my peasant relatives had no idea about nutrition..just fed our hunting high  energy dogs veggie slops and didn't wait for researches. I see packets with legal words on them....lists of things I can check to checklists of aafco about...and that is fine with me. Oh i had no idea until a few weeks ago there were 21 year old vegan cats around btw...so now i share those finds.

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Noelle Obcarskas I think evidence of such cats dogs helps. Now if y u see the long rambling of mine spat over the Anne Heritage Leadership missing in talks bit in this post....you will see i am FURIOUS she hadn't done a story webpage about all those dogs or hers to just do 1 paragraph on them ages health and what fed. I HATE closed groups. HATE them. I like OPEN READABLE POSTS Groups. Of course just read plenty TROLLS heading into the VEGANS WITH VEGAN CATS group today....anyway....ENOUGH OF MY RAMBLES Ja lol ! This animal....is at my mercy...and needs my protection. I have no right to force death and suffering on animals like her. Not just because i prefer a pet cuddly cat that thrives perfectly well longer than she got to live on her vegan complete nutrition diet. As for my dogs they will not live as long as Bramble and her companions AND I DO NOT CARE i will NOT KILL THIS TURKEY OR OTHERS LIKE HER WHEN ALTERNATIVE FOOD IS AVAILABLE TO MY HEALTHY DOGS AND CAT and STUFF THE SCIENCE PEASANTS FOR DECADES NEVER BOUGHT PET FOOD NEVER READ A LABEL AND FED DOGS LIKE PIGS VEGGIE SLOPS AND THEY THRIVED. WE shot dogs too old to be of any use buried kittens alive and now we are supposed to get all mamby pamby about some unnatural dog that has no USE other than a PET to coo over and what it gets fed. They are shit factories. All of them. My grandfather KILLED a dog just because it came in the house...animals did not belong in human houses was his view...and the world would be a better place if we stopped playing "mummies and daddies" with "fur babies" thinking we gave birth to dogs and cats and realised they are PATHETIC excuses ...shadows of their ancestors...but even MORE PATHETIC are the lives of this turkey or chicken who gets to live only 6 weeks as a broiler chicken and animals humans FORCE into existence to KILL after a short NOT cuddly "fur baby" pet life. WHO is taking responsibility for HER ? WHO is FORCING HER to DIE ? when using the word FORCING let us try SEEING THE VICTIM a bit better hey ! a vegan fed dog is NOT A DEAD VICTIM AGE 6 WEEKS OLD ! or does no one think we have a responsibility for HER ?

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Sonja Visscher Noelle Obcarskas I have a read anything after I typed the word stop. I’m going to block you next.

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Sonja Visscher Start a blog, don’t take over somebody else’s page.

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Noelle Obcarskas I take no orders from you...let the owner of this thread block me if he wishes....i am not a DOG to give orders to...block me as you wish...I WILL NOT STOP and if you don't like my words...then get stuffed.

Noelle Obcarskas you started this...telling ME that my cat is not vegan...you wanted to lecture me...so i replied....IN FULL.

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Sonja Visscher Noelle Obcarskas feeding a cat or dog kibble loaded with GMO‘s is wrong, let alone vegan kibble. It’s like eating cereal for their entire life. And, animals aren’t good at digesting raw vegetables because they have short intestines. You have to cook the vegetables and even purée them for animals to tolerate them. Would cats and dogs cook their vegetables in the wild? No. I didn’t think so. But, this is America, and you’re entitled to your own opinion. So we will agree to disagree on this. There’s no more discussion. Drop it.

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Noelle Obcarskas Sonja Visscher judgemental twaddle and avoiding as all cowards do the real victim....it is not wrong to kill animals we FORCE into existence unnaturally and kill but it is wrong to feed an animal food it thrives on which does not involve the deaths of forced into existence and killed animals. STRIPPING my cat of natural instincts lol...ffs you really are deluded...about the difference of DEATH and ME STOPPING MY CAT GOING OUTSIDE to avoid road splats mostly. ffs. with such mental illogical spouts as you spout it is not hard to understand why you are not vegan. ANIMALS ARE NOT OURS ! never mind hypothetically STOPPING a cat chasing an effin bird but how about NOT FORCING SOMEONE TO DIE ? anyone who cannot see a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE in those 2 matters is a retard. moron. So now I have given my judgement of you having seen yours of me.

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Noelle Obcarskas My cat is vegan. She is vegan fed. call her effin plant based or veggie it is all semantics. SHE IS VEGAN because i say she is. Nothing you say can make her non vegan.

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Noelle Obcarskas ooh i missed something..apparently it has something to do with AMERICA that allows freedom of opinion i just read ! HILARIOUS ! STUFF AMERICA i will SPEAK my views in any country....i am NOT IN THE USA ! what moronic argument is that to end a laugh on...hilarious !

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Noelle Obcarskas well actually now i see the problem....some people think some nations are superior to others ! well wtf are hairless apes keeping toy dog pets for ? to feel superior it seems to me. Cut off their testicles...put collars on leads on them...let them pee only when allowed to by owner hairless ape...and then think what is put in their food plate is a matter of importance ? missing FREEDOMS like not allowed to go wander free and have their own families seems a rather more serious matter to me than what food is put in their plates. I do not speak cat or dog....but...i do not think my cat or dogs have any idea what animal if any animal is in their plates that they eat out of. SO IT DOESN'T EFFIN MATTER does it ! they just want FOOD lol ! it is the OWNER who lives in fantasies lol ! never mind.

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Noelle Obcarskas Now the mistake people like this make...when wishing to end a discussion...is using ORDER imperative words like "DROP IT"....now that might work on a DOG but not me. I will NOT be spoken to like a DOG ! DOGS take orders and comply....humans FORCE them to learn to do that....I AM NOT A DOG !

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Noelle Obcarskas n.b. if anyone thinks i am failing to reply...it is simply that i cannot see if any further comments were made after a spat with a https://www.facebook.com/sonja.visscher.7who has blocked me. Not a problem just saying if anyone thinks I am avoiding replying to this person that is not the case...i have been blocked. Which is ok too.

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Claire Jones My dogs are vegan 😊

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Meg Pryor Claire do you make their food (ie: similar to what you’d be eating) or do you buy them a commercial vegan pet food? Just interested to see if anyone is cooking for their pets as well as themselves?

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Claire Jones Meg Pryor I buy a commercial pet food. I’m such an awful cook that I’d never subject anyone to eating what I make (except my husband 😉).

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Eric Martin Claire Jones how long have they been vegan? How old are they?

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Lucy Davies Meg Pryor I rescued my little girl over 3 years ago and feed human grade plant based kibble. She does eat home cooked meals occasionally but it's very difficult to make them nutritionally complete.
She's 8 1/2 now and in excellent health.
Many do feed mostly home cooked meals, with supplements, but I worry that their pets are getting all the nutrients they need.

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Claire Jones Eric Martin one of them is 6, vegan for 3 and a half years. The other is possibly 3 (she was a stray so we don’t exactly know) vegan for 18 months.

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Eric Martin Claire Jones do you know of any source where i could find more info?

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Claire Jones Eric Martin https://v-dog.com/.../22-reasons-your-dog-should-go-vegan

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Claire Jones I know that they're a company so probably have selling their products in mind but I honestly believe it's better for dogs to have a plant based diet. My dogs are very healthy and the vet always agrees :)

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Victoria Myerson My vet is perfectly happy with my two greyhounds, been vegan since we rescued them 3 years ago.
My previous greyhound was vegan from 8 months old, she came early to rescue as she had broken both back legs, the vegan dog food was perfect for her as it had the lower protein needed for a non racing greyhound.
Vets have never had any issue with the greyhounds being vegan.

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 I just euthanized my dog last month just 3 months before she turned 20 years old. 

She was destroyed by neglectful vets office. She would have lived beyond 20 if not for being stuck there when I was taken to ER for broken arm. 
She was vegan since I got her when she was 14 years old. 
One of the many things this vets office did was yell at me on phone when I was in hospital telling me dogs must eat meat & they refused to give her the vegan organic human food that I arranged to have brought there. Instead they gave her their garbage meat dog food. 
They also refused to walk her & so much more. 
Wish I could afford attorney to sue. 
I did report them to California Vet Medical Board.

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Lucy Davies I'm so sorry for your loss. The treatment you and your dog received is unforgivable. I would name and shame them.
I'm unsure why you didn't make sure they would care for her properly and why they objected so strongly to feeding her food she was accustomed to.
Not a vet I would go to and I hope they are held accountable for her loss :(

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Andy Schulgasser Lucy Davies she was brought there by friend who though they would care for her. Especially for the charge of $320/nite. Every day was battling with them on the phone begging them to give her the basic care. It was a nightmare.

I gave review on yelp of my exact same experience there. Someone responded by just calling me a bitch. I reported them to yelp & I believe they removed it.

I decided few years ago that i can no longer handle dealing with vets offices that are decent, battling rentals with outrageous fees & horrible designs for animals so I’m done with adopting animals.

I will get my animal fix by working with others animals only. No more fighting with organizations

Thank you so much for your thoughts

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Clare Mann My dogs are vegan - I took a 12 year old once called Topaz who was so malnurished, she had fungal infections, no hair on her back (german shepherd/kelpie), and skeletal. I put her on a vegan diet and she lives a full life with a full coat of hair and vitality until 17! We can't abuse one animal to be kind to another

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Dominic Parkes The actual leaders of vegan Dog food are Anne Heritage and Marcia Katz Neither of whom are on yr summit Older advocates recommended vegtarian Dog food not vegan The whole idea of leaders, esp those who appropriate the work of others is anti the vegan ethos. Vets on the whole have been part of the problem traditionally, promoting death foods When Anne and Marcia started out no one advocated vegan Dog food, only vegetarian Its distasteful and disrespectful to steal peoples intellectual property them claim its your own You have lifted Annes ideas almost word for word She might not mind because it's about stopping Animal suffering but please dont claim to be leaders, a self serving concept and show actual vegan Dog food pioneers some respect by acknowledging authentic sources Katz and Heritage were feeding vegan as opposed to veggie in the seventies

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Noelle Obcarskas I do not understand your hostility to this effort to promote vegan dog feeding. I have the book Anne Heritage wrote called "Bramble the dog who wanted to live forever" and there is no recipy in the book on how to make your own vegan dog food is my first point Nor is there a website on the matter either. So for me and others we bought commercially made vegan dog foods as nowhere else could we be assured what to feed. That Bramble was the most famous so encouraging example of a vegan fed dog who lived to 25 years without the details of how to make a balanced meal for a dog people need details. Just saying rice textured protein flakes and some herbs as is in the book is to my mind not enough detail. I do not understand your point ref vegetarian...my first prescription diet to cure my bitch stomac ulcers was vegetarian royal canin...99 percent vegan but with some trace of fish in it. I have i admit never heard of Marcia Katz i shall google to find out...i just did nothing came up for vegan dogs. Stopping animal cruelty is the goal...so of course "leaders" meaning people with nutrition qualifications and experience are needed. I have been feeding my dogs over 5 years plant based and my cat 1 year and currently have concerns over DCM heart disease in dogs due to it is said grain free...having a breed with heart risk genetic issues this is of interest to me to learn more about to try prevent. Claiming intellectual property has been stolen word for word is a jaw dropping claim ! Anyway. I end with a picture of my 2 vegan dogs. They now in the uk eat Benevo and V-Dog and i am interested in knowing more of the differences of ingredients etc I have made them Compassion Circle home made recipes also using their supplement powders. Considering that many are still UNAWARE of the existence even of vegan dog and cat food or are nervous and do not wish to read reams of the www.vegepets.com not very widely known website of Dr Knight it is helpful to have podcasts or whatever the word is to spread the news more..a recent survey in the USA where vegan petfoods have existed for 30 years now found only 27 percent of vegans fed their pets vegan....that is not good enough.

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Noelle Obcarskas ps I just got the standard GRUNT of "dogs need meat" type comment on an article talking of DOGS DEAD ON MEAT BASED FOOD ! https://www.facebook.com/theliv.../posts/2238593366206579... HILLS dog food this time subject to recalls. So in spite of recalls...dead dogs...people are still hostile to feeding dogs vegan...I mentioned Bramble in a comment there...got 2 ANGRY reactions to that picture of my dogs even !

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Noelle Obcarskas and let's not talk about the recent DEATH WISHES i got for feeding my CAT vegan ! who are the LEADERS for VEGAN CATS ? well dare I say Dr Andrew Knight and co ! without their websites and videos on youtube....we vegan dog and cat owners would get even MORE abuse ! EDIT...in fact...I consider myself a LEADER ! yes ! while i am at it ! i do not have a 25 years fed vegan dog to defend my position ! i am stuck with a 1 year old vegan fed cat who gets me DEATH WISHES ! let alone the vegan fed dogs getting me called an "ANIMAL ABUSER " and WHO can i refer to with evidence and explanations to defend myself out there ?

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COMMENT ON HOW MY CAT IS NOT VEGAN REPLY to person who has BLOCKED me I now realise….Noelle Obcarskas oh here we go...well maybe read the website and listen to the talk anyway. My cat IS vegan fed by the way and she is an indoor cat to prevent any "in denial" wish to think she eats kills outside only outside under supervision. This cat in this picture is currently in her 21st year tested by vets several times healthy so even without understanding the science....the reality is she is not a supernatural being and is vegan thriving long lived cat. Her companion the siamese died peacefully in his bed a few days before his 20th birthday also healthy lived and siamese usually live only 13 years. Celine and Poppy. end of matter for me and anyone who is not blind. Plenty long lived healthy dogs and cats fed vegan around Bramble was ahead of her time but she sure would NOT have lived that long just due to "exceptional" non diet related factors.

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Noelle Obcarskas oh and the ginger and black/white cat in this musical slideshow of vegan cats has been vegan fed for 7 years. https://youtu.be/JiJwSwS5kYo

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Noelle Obcarskas ps i do not FORCE food on my dogs or cat....i put food in a dish. Never head of anyone "force feeding" a pet lol and I see no point in "forcing" 3000 chickens for 1 dog or 1000 for 1 cat to die since that is not necessary because I am VEGAN and i believe in the 1st principle of veganism....which is ? ANIMALS ARE NOT OURS ! to use.

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Noelle Obcarskas ah gmos well that is what all farmed animals are forced to eat of course....so processed into their flesh. MY vegan dogfood is ORGANIC and GMO free.

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Noelle Obcarskas Now..unless a COWARD...if i really believed my cat or dogs needed this "Magic" unscientific word MEAT then i would KILL MY TURKEYS hey ! only a coward pays to kill other people's turkeys....or I would choose based on "which were more USEFUL to me as pets" maybe.ps SHE DIED age 1 year old after 1 full year of suffering pain in legs etc oh and she was an ORGANIC high class free range bred artificial insemination of eggs as standard top class turkey so let's not start the "organic" are best stuff hey. Never able to fly...in pain...and lasted 1 year suffering. THAT Is not DIGNIFIED to justify to feed some PET i say. WHERE IS THE EVEN COMPARABLE SUFFERING OF MY VEGAN FED CAT OR DOGS ? she would if a WILD NATURAL turkey live for 15 years and be able to FLY 25 miles flights !

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Dominic Parkes Noelle, its like everything women do that they pioneer, it gets taken up by others who claim the ideas as their own . Its respectful to quote pioneers and the sources of ideas . Annes dogs were vegan in the seventies but as there was no social media flak was less intense. in her book she explains what food she fed but its much more about a wholistic care regime not just a diet. its also the biography of a dog, not just a recipe book per se . Calling yourself a leader is disrespectful to those you hope to educate hopefully they lack info not intelligence . Im not hostile to the idea of vegan dog food education just people trying to claim the work of women as their own Re vets, they dont have a great record on nutrition The proof is none on their clients dogs live as long as they could . All Annes dogs lived to nineteen, twenty or as with Bramble twenty five. Marcia Katz is well known by older activists for her work promoting vegan dogs . This post appears to be two stage marketing, intially free but probably then steering people to products they want to sell or promote . People should at least quote sources of ideas as with academic work and we should assist in empowering carers not claim to be leaders,that's such a right wing sort of concept.

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Noelle Obcarskas My point is....where is the help to others to feed their dogs vegan out there from Anne or this other unheard of by me person ? was it difficult to produce that on a webpage somewhere for information ? I produced a blog website yes to give others information....providing LINKS to those who were qualified to give scientific details etc....Scientific studies are exactly what the website of Dr Knight provides ! i added more to my blog on the topics i add...so JA BOO Anne's dogs lived so long ja boo in the sense of HOW USEFUL IS THAT TO ME ? when i have no visibility or ability to buy her recepies even ? useless. This is one of the pages I wrote with information links all over it....took much time....not as professional as the Dr Knights pages that I include with his videos on my pages...but I TRIED to provide INFORMATION DETAILS. http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Dogs_and_Cats.html LEADERS was a term you used not the vets of this talk....so having seen it used now you say it is not LEADERS we need well i do not give a toss what you call talkers or information providers but if people want to bandy around titles then I will take that one too lol

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Noelle Obcarskas and this...was the last days suffering of Christmas my turkey hen https://youtu.be/bg2QtO9RH6U

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Dominic Parkes Anne is currently writing a dog food book . She spent forty years of her life bringing up rescue dogs . She doesnt do recipe books because they tend not to provide full nutrient quotas if you do recipes separately. Katz wrote a lot of links about the vegan food and Madison Norgren is the best source imo on vegan cat food.

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Noelle Obcarskas As i recall Anne got much information from some Nutritionist. Forget the name but never a link provided and whoever it was helped Anne obviously in a very very successful result in her dogs not just Bramble. I have NO ISSUE with paying for valuable information ! however where is it on sale ?

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Noelle Obcarskas I had no reply from that Maddison when alarmed with a KITTEN in the uk there was NO VEGAN KITTEN food around....and only the lists of suppliers and masses of emails by me as no replies on forums i found out .....only compassion circle home made recepeies were ok for kittens ami is for ADULTS....well that pissed me off...but DID I FEED THE KITTEN MEAT ? no...i was prepared to let her DIE rather than kill my turkeys and just hoped she would do ok Where are the information pages done by this Maddison then hey ? i have never seen any ! do not get me going....my kitten got to adulthood ok...not as good as if she had kitten specific food no doubt but ok I ordered compassion circle stuff from the USA ...took weeks before i found that was what i need and got it

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Dominic Parkes She researched quite a lot. One of the sources was US writer Adele Davis but Davis only explains what nutrients are in what food. She wasnt vegan. Shes been dead a few years but her books are still around.

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Noelle Obcarskas So my point is...what USE is that to me and people who want to know about feeding their dogs and cats vegan ? we have to rely on something ! information someone takes the trouble to provide and the petfood producers who make them

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Noelle Obcarskas ah i bought a book on dog recepies...heather coster name...and only ONE recipy stated..."a complete nutrition" for dogs ! no details of calories..fat..protein..just lists of ingredients. I CANNOT DEAL WITH THAT ! i do not know what a CARB looks like it is just a WORD to me i am not a scientist..but....i understand TABLES and LISTS and AAFCO lists and grams of this and that and allocated nutritional values ! my peasant relatives just stuffed pasta rice and veggies in our dogs bowls....never bothered their heads about CALORIES or PROTEIN words...but I like to think i have advanced from that...the dogs were fine...but i am not into that...i want more details and assurances. Oh they never fed PETFOOD or MEAT to the hunting dogs lol...too expensive to waste on dogs...and by golly the dogs had energy....but I live in a MODERN world and do not grow my own veggies and all that shit is full of ARSENIC is in the rices from USA bangladesh and all veggies have 50 percent LESS nutrients than 40 years ago even Boots chemist multivits labels tell me that....8 oranges to get the same vitamin c as 1 orange 40 years ago...all that jazz...i need assurances

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Noelle Obcarskas i am NOT eating 8 oranges to get the same vitamin c that 1 orange had 40 years ago. Take a multivit is less force feeding myself. I would be SICK of oranges if i had to eat all that.

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Noelle Obcarskas Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site. http://www.a.net/... link of that Marcia is it ? anyway not working

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Noelle Obcarskas Now that i am in full flow....let me add something else hey ! I did a FACEBOOK page on Bramble ! a simple short page with the AMAZON SOLD BOOK details of "Bramble the dog who wanted to live forever" all i added was that the dog had lived 25 years on a vegan diet....as the Amazon and other websites state and even get wrong stating 27....and ? Anne objected and had the page REMOVED by facebook for "intellectual property" rights abuse " now all I did it for was to INFORM PEOPLE OF THE EXISTANCE of this Bramble vegan dog....I was not getting any MONEY from it ! and THAT is how UNHELPFUL and UNINFORMATIVE to others Anne reacted ! She accused me of trying to make money ! jaw dropping it was.

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Dominic Parkes You could always do what older vegans did. Research stuff yourself. Anyway Im not objecting to info providers, just those who dont qoute their sources.

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Noelle Obcarskas I still have the page i did on Little Tyke...again same principle...picture from the book sold publically...https://www.facebook.com/veganlionesslittletyke/

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Noelle Obcarskas what SOURCES ? are you saying Anne went and gave all her knowledge to Dr Knights etc ? I do not understand...I have never seen mention of "interviews" with Anne by anyone....or videos...so what "acknowledgements" are expected ? the PETA etc people who wrote articles on Bramble had nothing about her diet details provided just the FACT that the dog lived 27 years they keep getting wrong on a vegan diet ! Vegan Dog Lives To 189 Years | Care2 Healthy Living
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Dominic Parkes I know her well. We live in same town . She considered Bramble her daughter and was sad youd put up a page about her dog without bothering to ask her. Shes an ok person whose helped me with my dog Sams diet and helped care for my last Alsation cross. What have you done for Animal rights. Youve criticised Anne and Maddison so have you done any research yourself? Her book explains a care regime and quotes certain phrases and ideas . Now there are band wagon jumpers out there using the ideas but putting other twists on them like calorie restriction which Ive never heard her mention.

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Noelle Obcarskas Oh right now we have 1 individual sorted diet for a dog news. WHAT USE IS THAT TO ME OR OTHERS ? is again my point. People out there are not even AWARE of Bramble generally and not even a facebook page is hardly helping promote vegan dogs is it ? I told you and provided the link i did on a webpage with a huge number of links to relevant useful information on vegan dogs and cats. I am the one who replies on youtube etc posts about vegan dogs and cats....not ONCE have i seen Anne do that hey ! not one video explaining things...or showing vegan dogs or cats. Even the references to BRAMBLE are of people like PETA not Anne ! wtf are people supposed to think when people cannot point to any reference of the owner of the dog ? oh some pages with information videos photos of my own vegan cat even done...http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Rescue_Kitten_New...

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Dominic Parkes Most vegan activists have heard of Bramble, and of Katz. Annes book has been out for a few years. Actually she has care concerns regarding an elderly relative now . Whats stopping you do your own research? . Are you the person who was threatening Anne that you were going to kill a dog you were looking after because you werent researching and said you couldnt find vegan dog food,? I heard this person thought shelter dogs should be killed rather than fed meat? If thats you do you still think that?

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Noelle Obcarskas Dominic Parkesnow you are getting very boring telling me (and others of course) to go do all the research ourselves not even providing the name of any books. Very helpful not. I was going to kill a dog that was dumped on me if a vegan feeding home were not found for it ref that remark. I was not prepared to rehome a dumped on me staffie dog of some druggies who sold him to someone for 8gbp for drugs to a non vegan feeding home. not going to be responsible for thousands of chickens turkeys deaths. I would not waste my time as i did driving all night to a vegan feeding home I found the dog again. Anne was not threatened...such twaddle. I simply asked if she knew anyone who would take such a dog out of desperation. Idiocy ....now you are simply wishing to be negative and critical and since you have nothing useful to direct anyone to for information paid or unpaid...sit in your smug you have the personal private knowledge from Anne as you stated and tell me to go research stuff as you please but it is just griping with nothing to offer is my view. right. off this tiresome unproductive discussion with you http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Cats_List_Examples.html

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Dominic Parkes I didnt say you threatened her I said you threatened to kill the dog which you just admitted. I can now see why so many people block you. Goodnight. I have no time for lazy people who insist others do all their thinking for them and you have slagged offcAnne and Maddison. who have spent years promoting veganism. Time you helped do some of the work yourself instead o running others down,esp when theyve taken the time to read your long diatribes.

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Noelle Obcarskas good. I block many myself who issue me with death threats all sorts of course since i am out in public showing my support for vegan dogs and cats publically. If i have to kill...i choose the minimal numbers. 1 dog or 3000 chickens was a no brainer.

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Noelle Obcarskas ah another youtube threatener of me is at it again on some video i commented on positively for vegan cats....need to deal with that prat now so SAVED BY THE BELL lol no time to waste here more on you

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Dominic Parkes Well support those who came before you and did the hardest work. All Ive said is women deserve recognition for thier ideas. Not that controversial surely.

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Dominic Parkes Noelle ObcarskasIm sure people reading this will breathe a sigh of relief. I cant imagine why anyone would want to kill you.

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Noelle Obcarskas I MENTION BRAMBLE OFTEN ! i do not often mention the name Anne Heritage as she does not have even a page on her dog and no point directing them to her facebook page she isnt up to dealing with the people i have to deal with obviously and does not WANT to because if she did she would have such a page or reference point.

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Noelle Obcarskas why would people wish me to die a "slow painful death" as the exact words of the last one were ? because I FEED MY CAT VEGAN was the row over that !

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Noelle Obcarskas Someone of the "CATS MATTER" group that was...yesterday it was i think if not the day before....an organisation into dealing with the 130 thousand cats killed on British roads every year wanting taxpayers to deal with admin to report and find owners about ....because currently there is no legal obligation to report run over by cars cats.

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Dominic Parkes Noelle ObcarskasActually she does have a page under construction but like all pages it will keep trolls out. She also has other pages on environmental concerns. oh and one trying to stop construction on Greenfield Animal habitat. Tell me again what you do?

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Noelle Obcarskas Dominic Parkeswhat do i do ? waste my time communicating with no useful information people like you it seems lol

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Lucy Davies Noelle Obcarskas there are FB groups for people feeding dogs and cats a plant based diet. One I'm in Anne also belonged to and she shared her recipes, so maybe become a part of a community of like minded people.
Just reading your comments you appear to want to be a leader on a topic you don't have enough information about.
Sometimes it pays to be quiet, listen and learn!
Anne did have a public page, perhaps she was pestered so much she had to shut it down. That's really sad as she's such a lovely lady.

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Cassidy Jordyn i completely agree that it is important to acknowledge the pioneers of this movement, especially women. I also think that it's incredibly important that veterinary/nutritionist experts continue to publicly host events like this to encourage doubters & interested parties to feed plant-based foods to companion animals. Many people are skeptical about a story from someone claiming they fed their dog this/that without vet professionals confirming the health aspects as well. Anne is who inspired me to learn more absolutely but it is difficult to find actual advice & nutritional info from her & others and it always helped to reassure me when I had conversation with professionals as well. Perhaps talk to Anne and encourage dr. Knight & others arranging this summit to invite her to speak next time if she wishes. I'm sure we would all love to hear more about her story & experience rather than piecing it together with some info found online. She did used to be an active participant of many Facebook groups on the subject but I have not seen anything from her in a long while. It's important to ensure that this info & insight is accessible at all times and from as many sources as possible 🙂

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Tabby Thunder Noelle Obcarskas I just searched for Anne Heritage on Facebook and asked her, she was kind and patient enough to give me her tried and tested recipe ..

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Cassidy Jordyn Dr. Knight has been working for MANY years to compile data & scientific evidence on the subject and has several scholarly articles available to peruse. His insight & background are incredibly important to this movement too as there aren't many vet professionals putting in the research for this.

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Noelle Obcarskas Tabby Thunder lol which u do not share here. what a waste of puffed up time. if only available to favoured individuals excuse me while i puke if that is supposed to be helping the animals out there generally... that is so typical....boasting one has advantages...that one does not share. say no more. i yawn off seeing JA BOO so YOU have something that apparently no one else can have unless personal advantage.

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Noelle Obcarskas Lucy Davies tosspot comment i do not go around giving recipies to people i provide links to compassion circle etc who do..people do ask. now those groups with Anne in them BANNED me as soon as i asked...where is the taurine in the recipy ? on a post...not an offensive question hey...and those recipies are not publically visible. i have no time for that kind of prattishness. i listen or read quantified experts if talking recipies not even the heather coster unquantified even calories recipies are good enough for me to trust.

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Noelle Obcarskas This is so typical actually...of puffed up toads (apologies to toads i could even say fluffed up turkeys or peacocks) offended that THEY are not being STROKED publically whining and spitting at those trying to help others learn more about how to save animals. Instead of doing pm to the conference organisers or whatever it is these "leaders" or just yappers or talkers without even calling them LEADERS myself as i do not give a TOSS who is talking what i care about is DETAILS of what they might have to say of use ...yes instead of communicating to ASK CAN I OR SO AND SO TALK TOO ? we get a HOSTILE bashing of these people in PUBLIC to achieve what ? MORE PEOPLE GOING TO THINK TO FEED DOGS VEGAN ? is THAT the objective of slating people for using ONCE the word LEADERS in some advert about a talk of vegan dog food ? what do i think to that ? PATHETIC ! PATHETIC EGOCENTRIC TWADDLE ! Seems clear...this missed initially by me word LEADERS in this pr about a talk on vegan dog food.has RUFFLED FEATHERS hey ! because EVERYONE WANTS TO BE THE GAFFA syndrome hey ! it was MY idea rants of kids throwing toys out of cots !

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Noelle Obcarskas oh jeah....well NOW you all know....why I AM THE ONE DEALING WITH THE EDUCATION OF THE GRUNTS and DEATH WISHERS hey ! someone has to ! crack some skulls to get through ! and I just realised..the GRUNTS are the LEAST of the problem it is the hiding behind no websites uncontactable never out there dealing with the YOU ARE KILLING YOUR CAT and ANIMAL ABUSER and LIAR and I WILL GET YOU JAILED and I WILL KILL YOUR DOGS and I HOPE YOU DIE A SLOW DEATH comments people that are the bigger problem ! they want STROKING ! not all that SHIT that foot soldiers or leaders out front get ! they want TITLES like LEADER ! it is like the queens New Years Honours list....OBE ! OTHER BUGGERS EFFORTS are wanted ! x number of dogs fed vegan ? ALL PRAISE AND HONOUR TO THESE PEOPLE FIRST syndrome ! It is the same in the army. HQ sit in safe offices ringing up the battle field on mobiles that only work if out in the open...and when someone does take the RISK to answer the phone going out in the open under fire out of the shelter...and replies to HQ question of....HOW ARE THINGS ? ...WE ARE UNDER MORTAR FIRE and ALL YOU CAN ASK IF HOW ARE THINGS ? F U ! and gets told I AM YOUR SUPERIOR OFFICER i want a REPORT ON MY DESK BY MONDAY MORNING..we understand how the world works better. Those that take the flack....are not interested in the title LEADER they are too busy trying to stay alive and getting on with the job. I MISSED SEEING THE WORD LEADERS ! i had to read the article link again to FIND it ! THAT IS HOW UNINTERESTED I AM IN THAT WORD !

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Noelle Obcarskas I WANT DETAILS I WANT DETAILS !!! I do not care what TITLE the people giving me or others those details are...but I WANT DETAILS ! and explanations.

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Noelle Obcarskas Ok Morning and stll no replies on For the Love of turkeys or Vegans with Chickens about my worry that another of my turkeys may have respiratory disease...the baby tom is chuff chuffing constantly...is this NORMAL for a male turkey ? or sign that he has a cold ? sigh. I dunno. But I just lost Christmas age 1 year old who sneezed and struggled to breath all her short life due to Mycoplasma so to lose another or have to watch him start to suffer as she did is not pleasing me....more antibiotics ..Xmas became immune to the ones i gave her for months....was too late by the time i got different ones...RIGHT ! now....here is some INFORMATION that maybe can be ADDED TO THE TALKS AGENDA ! yep....I HAVE DETAILS !!! and here I come !....

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Noelle Obcarskas THIS IS....ANNE HERITAGE RECIPY FOR VEGAN DOGS " "Anne Heritage Hi. Bramble and her companions were fed long grain whole brown rice, red split lentils and textured vegetable protein chunks
With yeast extract, organic veg, say cabbage, broccoli, carrots. Quarter a teaspoon of ground flax seed . cooked for approx an hour with lots of water. With pinch of turmeric and teaspoon of mint
The Tvp was the dark one which has more taste. All food was always organic. Amounts are roughly one mug rice, half mug lentils ,half mug tvp, two mugs veg between two collie size Dogs.
Anne Heritage Oils best fed via seeds like flax powder or chia seeds. Neat processed oils can cause pancreatic issues, even flax oil.
Anne Heritage It was vetinary advice given to me by a qualified vet. Ive always found it sound. As for peer reviewed studies on any vegan Dog food Where re they? It would be good if there were some contemporary ones, but guessing there arent any done that can reasonably be called independent."

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Noelle Obcarskas whoops...what word do I see in that ? VET ! eeeek ! now where are the CREDITS given to the NAMED ? VET that gave ANNE her information ? i mean this issue is about RECOGNISING THOSE WHO GAVE INFORMATION THE FIRST ! seems that VET is UNNAMED GRAVE hey no VET was named in her book....MORE UNKNOWN SOLDIER GRAVES !

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Noelle Obcarskas whoops..what do i read also ? claim of no peer reviewed vegan dog food " none that are "independent" eeeeeeek ! now last i commented on youtube to someone saying Dr Knight was EARNING from his "propaganda" and words like that for information he was talking about...I REPLIED I HAD CHECKED ! the man WAS a qualified vet....and he was NOT on the board of any Vegan Pet Food manufacturers or earning income from them....oh some DOUBTING THOMASES have not actually accused me of MAKING UP THIS PICTURE however ! one win ! ps there is a problem of course with this issue...people who make the petfoods NEED EXPERTISE in them so obviously are experts in nutrition issues...but it is hard to persuade others when the issue of independence is raised about their views of course. It is a double edged sword in effect. The reality is....we need both....experts in the MAKING of the pet foods as well as independent reviews of them.

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Noelle Obcarskas ah another (shorter than some I have) Anne Heritage recipy comment..."Anne Heritage‎ to 100% Vegan Products UK
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Just saw post of someone saying they'll be getting a dog and asking what people feed but comments turned off. I would recommend cooking Dogs food yourself. Organic whole grain rice red split lentils yeast extract organic veg bit of flax seed. I fed my Dog Bramble this and she lived to 25 yrs old. World's oldest bitch when she died. Other Dogs in my care fed vegan lived to 20 yrs (one) and nineteen years three of them. If you want your Dog to live longer than flesh fed feed vegan. Do your research
Its also cheaper than ready made muck full of chemicals and slaughterhouse wastes."

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Noelle Obcarskas THAT IS ANOTHER PROBLEM ANNE RIGHTLY POINTS OUT ! the TOPIC PET FOOD BANNED or THREADS CLOSED in VEGAN GROUPS !

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Noelle Obcarskas right back to RECIPES ! for those who DARED to accuse me of LAZINESS....here is evidence that I TRIED TO QUANTIFY what my 2 large dogs needed....and that is if anyone reads ANY dog nutrition page about AGE WEIGHT ENERGY LEVELS of the dogs ...this is my comment I add....trying to GET TO DETAILS..."Anne heritage dogfood recipy posts analysis and combination of finds…
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For 2 very large dogs…each 50kg weight…total dogs weight 100kg. quantities of food needs per day for nutritionally complete meals needing no added vitamins or minerals or taurine…
What is missing…and needs to be quantified…is…the TOTAL CALORIES. TOTAL PROTEIN. TOTAL FATS, TOTAL VITAMINS, MINERALS, OMEGA 3 and OMEGA 6 quantities per 100 grams of these ingredients are. In total therefore what the nutritional content is of each meal.
1. Probiotics powder. 2 tablespoons
2. Vegeyeast powder. 2 tablespoons
3. Chia seeds soaked/ground. 1 teaspoon. 
4. Flax/linseed soaked/ground. 1 teaspoon 
5. Organic long grain brown rice 2 cups = 200 grams 
6. Lentils 1 cup 100 grams. 
7. Textured soy or vegetable protein flakes 1 cup 100 grams. 
8. Vegetables 4 cups. Mix of organic carrot and cabbage and broccoli. Chopped/sliced. Carrots = 50 grams per 1 cup. Cabbage = 200 grams per 1 cup. Broccoli = 100 grams per 1 cup.
9. Turmeric. 1 teaspoon per day. Organic with cucurmin 5 percent content.
10. Mint. 1 teaspoon per day. Oregano. Rosemary. Basil also small similar quantities possible.
11. 2 bananas. Or mango melon plums (minus stones)
12. Pumpkin seeds ground/soaked. 1 teaspoon
13. Sunflower seeds ground/soaked 1 teaspoon.
14. 1 teaspoon of organic unrefined hemp oil.
This combination and quantities is believed to fullfill ALL the nutrients needs of a dog. Depending on quantities eaten of course. However the items selected can be changed for different veggies etc but I deliberately left out KALE due to oxalate issues bad for kidneys with some kale varieties. Likewise potatos. I chose broccoli…however even that has warnings ref quantities for dogs ref oxalates I noted. GREENS are needed…it is a question of WHICH greens are best to give. Low oxalate greens are Cabbage, Cauliflour and peas. High are potatoes, some kales and sweet potatoes.
For different size dogs…based on 100kg weight of dog requirements in list requirements, adaptable proportionately.
1. Probiotics powder. 2 tablespoons
2. Vegeyeast powder. 2 tablespoons
3. Chia seeds soaked/ground. 1 teaspoon. 
4. Flax/linseed soaked/ground. 1 teaspoon 
5. Organic long grain brown rice 2 cups = 200 grams (432 Calories cooked. Fat 2grams, Carbs 88 grams , Protein 10 grams)
6. Lentils 1 cup 100 grams. (353 calories. Cooked 323, 3% fat cooked 20%, 68% carbs cooked 36%, 29% protein cooked 20%. Fat 1 gram cooked 12 grams. Carbs 60grams cooked 36 grams Protein 26grams cooked 16 grams. Potassium 955 grams, cooked 672 grams, Sodium 6mg cooked 431mg, Sugars 3 grams cooked. Vitamin C, Calcium, Iron. Vitamin A destroyed in cooking. Saturated fat 8% cooked.
7. Textured soy or vegetable protein flakes 1 cup 100 grams. ( Simmered for 1 hour stovetop = in pressure cooker estimate 4 minutes) (Calories 330, Fat 1 gram, Carbs 38 grams, Protein 47 grams. Vitamin C, Calcium, Iron)

8. Vegetables 4 cups. Mix of organic carrot and cabbage and broccoli. Chopped/sliced. Carrots = 50 grams per 1 cup. Cabbage = 200 grams per 1 cup. Broccoli = 100 grams per 1 cup.
Carrots…MASSIVE Vitamin A cooked. 60 Calories.
Brocoli MASSIVE Vitamin C cooked. 35 Calories.
Cabbage. 30 percent rda of Vitamin C some calcium and vitamin A and 1% iron . 42 Calories.
9. Turmeric. 1 teaspoon per day. Organic with cucurmin 5 percent content.
10. Mint. 1 teaspoon per day. Oregano. Rosemary. Basil also small similar quantities possible.
11. 2 bananas. Or mango melon plums (minus stones)
12. Pumpkin seeds ground/soaked. 1 teaspoon
13. Sunflower seeds ground/soaked 1 teaspoon.
14. 1 teaspoon of organic unrefined hemp oil.
1 oz of pumpkin seeds = 150 calories ! 1tbspoon flaxseeds ground 37 calories. sunflower seeds 100 calories ! Chia seeds 1 tbsp 130 calories. 1 banana 100 calories. 1 tbsp hemp oil 120 calories.

nearly HALF the calories of the bulk ingredients with texture are coming from just a few spoons of SEED OILS ! and the VITAMINS from the veggies...interesting.
Ps All that quantity…may or may NOT fit into a standard average 6 liter pressure cooker pot safely. Therefore reduce quantities cooked for several cooking sessions accordingly or use largest possible size pressure cooker GoWise 12 liters capacity for less cooking sessions. 5 cups veggies 1 liter water approx.. We are taking 6 cups of food ingredients including the 1 cup lentils that are high foam risk without 1 teaspoon of hemp oil in the cooking pot. Natural Release Pressure valve system better than Quick Release Pressure valve that veggies usually use due to lentils sticky foam splurting issues.
I have not tried this recipy yet to test the quantities possible.
Process:
1. Grind in nutribullet grinder seeds. 2 minutes.
2. Soak seeds separately overnight. If not ground. If ground no need to soak.
3. Soak lentils overnight. Min 2 hours for lentils if not overnight. 2 minutes grinding time in machine.
4. Rinse rice several times prior to putting in pot to cook. No need to soak rice. 5 minutes.
5. Put all lentils veggies and textured protein flakes in pot with water. Add 1 teaspoon of hemp oil. Ratio 6 parts water to 1 part ingredients. Cook on high pressure for 4 minutes. Natural Release Valve pressure not quick release. Takes about 5 minutes after ending cooking time of 4 minutes. Total warm up time of 5 minutes plus cook time 4 minutes plus depressure time of 5 minutes makes a total of 14 minutes total time in pressure cooker.
6. Take contents out of pressure cooker and cool down to eating temperature. 10 minutes stiring to cool.
7. Add seeds, powders herbs and chopped banana. Stir in well.
8. Feed to dogs.
9. Clean pressure cooker especially valves and inner lid and inner pot. Run a Steam 5 minutes program to ensure vents cleared. 5 minutes time.
Golden Paste ingredients issue…coconut oil is avoided. However the other oils with a dash of black pepper and the curcumin in turmeric…is what creates the health benefits helpful to worm prevention…epilepsy/seizures and arthritis. So ? maybe a good idea to mix those separately before adding to the meal mix ? Black pepper is toxic to dogs in large doses…but the agent which gets the curcumin benefits to work when combined. 
Re OILS. Understanding is…”processed” oils meaning “refined” are BAD. Oils from SEEDS are best. Flax/Linseed is very unstable once ground…so to use fresh. Not good if cooked so add at end to cooked food and stir in.

Add the probiotic yeast mint flax/linseed chia seed turmeric and banana AFTER cooking when food warm not boiling hot.
Flaxseeds/linseeds go rancid off fast at room temperature shelf life short days best ground and used at once to not be bitter and lose omega oils. Probably the same for the pumpkin and sunflower seeds. Nutribullet can grind fast. 
Preparation: Soak overnight the seeds and lentils. Stir lentils rinse and drain before adding fresh filtered water. Lentils and seeds can be soaked for 2 hours minimum alternatively.
Ratio for cooking in pressure cooker…6 parts water to 1 part veggies/lentils. For an average 5 liter capacity pressure cooker…this means…calculation needs ! 
Stir in well.
To calculate…calories. Estimated 1300 calories per day per large size 50kg weight dog. 
Details of grams weight of ingredients needed…matched to calories/protein/fat/vitamins/minerals per 100 grams. Matched to Aafco measures RDA. "

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Noelle Obcarskas and i went on.."Nutrients Measures/Values: This is the nightmare issue to be able to be sure that any home made food has the right nutrients needed.
I would like a simple way to list..
What 100 grams of broccoli/1 cup contains in terms of minerals and vitamins. Etc
What % of RDA AAFCO standard nutrients needs does this menu provide ? What % of Omega 3 and Omega 6 does this provide ? (the ratio 10 to 1 of omega 6 to omega 3 that dogs need )
Examples of items for which some relevant details found…
1. Chia seeds soaked/ground. 1 tablespoon. 

A tablespoon of chia seeds, which weighs about 14 grams, contains approximately 70 calories. Nearly 40 of those calories, or 57 percent, come from saturated fat. Another 9 calories, or nearly 14 percent of calories, are from protein 2mg. The final 20 calories, roughly 29 percent of the total, are from carbohydrates 4mg. Calcium 25mg. Iron 1mg. Sodium 1mg. Fibre 3gm.

2. Flax/linseed soaked/ground. 1 tablespoon = 7grams. 1 Tablespoon Ground Flaxseed: Calories. 36. Protein. 2 grams. Fat. 3.3 grams. Omega 3 fats. 1800 mg. Fiber. 2.2 grams. 2 grams of polyunsaturated fatty acids. Ibre 2gm.
Flax is one of the richest sources of plant-based omega-3 fatty acids, called alpha-linolenic acid (or ALA). Higher in omega 3 than omega 6 !
Hemp seeds contain gamma-linolenic acid (GLA), the active omega-6 form. Sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, sesame seeds and raw nuts also contain omega-6

What is needed…is a list of the protein fats in grams and minerals vitamins in mg quantities. Then compare to RDA AAFCO standards.
The Ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 needs of DOGS Is the opposite very different to humans…humans need 2 to 1 ratio of Omega 3 to 6…dogs need ratio of 10 to 1 of Omega 6 to omega 3.
Eg of Flaxseeds…per 100 grams. (1 tablespoon)
Calories 534 
Water 7 %
Protein 18.3 g
Carbs 28.9 g
Sugar 1.6 g
Fiber 27.3 g
Fat 42.2 g
Saturated 3.66 g
Monounsaturated 7.53 g
Polyunsaturated 28.73 g
Omega-3 22.81 g
Omega-6 5.9 g
ps ref the YEAST..a vague term...nutritional yeast is I understand INERT yeast. Source of vitamin b12 needs. However the human yeasts such as brewers yeast or engevita nutritional yeasts are not best for dogs. A special dog needs inert yeast as supplied by vegepets is best for dog digestion and nutrient absorption needs. I have no idea what other "yeast" one could buy that meets a dog nutrition needs other than vegepets vegeyeast powder I add so I mention this having previously added engevita to my dogs feeds but then read it is probably not absorbed well.

THE OMEGAS PROBLEM….

Dogs need a ratio of 10 to 1 of omega 6 to omega 3. The OPPOSITE to humans proportions.

So ?
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Tabby Thunder Noelle Obcarskas , I didn't have personal advantage. I just asked her!

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Noelle Obcarskas oh i have not finished hey ! now I never got a REPLY to the OMEGA RATIOS that i discovered or thought to be AN ISSUE....anyone seen the youtube video about 40 year old vegan dies of heart attack ? president in the USA of the vegan society ? well I have ! it explains....that OMEGA 6 DESTROY OMEGA 3's in humans so we have to INCREASE our OMEGA 3 the heart friendly omega ....as well as have vitb12 and reduce oils to have healthy hearts....but I WAS AND STILL AM CONFUSED...to read DOGS need the OPPOSITE RATIOS ? and I HAVE HIGH HEART RISK DOGS ! so...FFS UNDERSTAND I FOCUS ON WHAT IS IMPORTANT ! and STILL i have not got the answer.

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Noelle Obcarskas and do not start on about TAURINE which I learned dogs and humans makein their own bodies....but...i have seen TAURINE is added in my commercial vegan dog food ! and i see human athletes take extra taurine....so ? since this is a HEART issue I STUFFED EXTRA TAURINE in my dog and cat foods..UNTIL I READ EXCESS is bad for KIDNEYS that cats in particular are health sick bigtime from....so those saying GIVE MORE excess can do not harm are WRONG ! IMHO....

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Noelle Obcarskas yep....found it...this was my last comment in a DOG NUTRITION GROUP with that ANNE HERITAGE made WHEN THEY BANNED ME ...."Noelle Obcarskas am i missing something but...i see TAURINE provided by vegedog supplement powder NOT veggie ingredients. Is this the case ? i guess so. Dogs are said to not need taurine unlike cats. What is puzzling me...is the "vague" mention of the quantity of vegedog to add. now seeing how as I could not calculate what nutrients were missing in any selection made here in that list...i could not therefore know if i needed to add 1 tablespoon or 2 tablespoons of vegedog and if i would be under or overdosing on certain vitamins and minerals. That is my problem actually with all these recepes. Unless clear how many nutrients are in 100 grams of any ingredient...one is lost to know how much vegedog supplement to add or not."

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Noelle Obcarskas ah here is the NAME of some NUTRITIONIST without a RIP MEMORIAL also...."Anne Heritage I read all of Adelle Davis's books. She was a US nutritionist. Not a vegan , and fond of promoting dairy so I didn't take account of that, but her detailed work on the nutritional roots of disease and how to cure it with food was useful. Also her charts on what nutrients, in what amounts are in what plants. So then I read diet for a small planet by Francis Lappe Moore, also not a vegan text but she writes about how combining plant foods can up the protein content,. After that I read various texts on nutrition, later on including A gentle way with cancer and The Bristol diet, from the Bristol cancer help centre. Which in the eighties advocated a wholly vegan diet, and again there is a fair bit of breakdown about what vitamins and minerals do and what plant foods they're in, among other texts over the years. My mother has always read widely about healing disease and prompting health with food, so her input was useful. So essentially a wide range of sources. Davis's book let's get well has many sources she used in the bibliography."

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Noelle Obcarskas FOUND IT TOO....she GREW HER OWN VEG !!! well ffs of COURSE that is healthier....see my comments about 8 oranges needed to provide what 40 years ago 1 orange provided in Vitamin C alone ! RICE since Anne days of feeding Bramble is discovered to be FULL OF ARSENIC if from Bangledesh the biggest human poisoning via drinking water in history ! "Anne Heritage Annie mags; my Dogs were fed long grain organic brown rice..red split lentils organic..yeast extract.. Organic veg.. Ground flax seed..textured vegetable protein..mint and turmeric. Veg was usually carrot cabbage broccoli for example
I grew my own veg for them. Average size collie portion dried weight. Mug of rice..half mug lentils..half mug tvp..mug veg. Half teaspoon flax seeds soaked in water overnight and mixed in
Quarter teaspoon turmeric..half TSP mint.. If dried or few stalks fresh stripped from stem or chopped
Cook in lots of water for an hour. Drain cool serve.
Anne Heritage Try feeding brown wholegrain organic rice, lentils, veg ,tvp or soya, yeast extract (half teaspoon) in water used to cook rice. Add chia seeds ,pre soaked, to cooked food. Vegan food is unlikely to cause gut issues, done right"

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Noelle Obcarskas LET NO ONE SAY ANNE HERITAGE HAS NOT GOT A MENTION HEY ! BEFORE WE EVEN LISTEN TO THE TALKS ! BY THE TIME I HAVE FINISHED PASTING STUFF THE WORLD WILL KNOW SOME DETAILS FROM HER HEY ! CALL IT MY SERVICE TO ANIMALS ! AND SUE ME FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AS YOU WISH ....POST ON FACEBOOK ? TAKE THE CONSEQUENCES HEY

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Noelle Obcarskas i realise....that my peasant relatives were even LESS attention to DETAILS than Anne Heritage as they just shoved pasta this veggies that in hunting dog bowls boiled up sometimes if not left overs and had no interest in PERCENTAGE PROTEIN FATS etc issues. HOWEVER ! they grew their own veggies ! those had more nutrients in than today !

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Noelle Obcarskas brill...found something TOTALLY confusing for me from Anne....GREAT DETAILS....of NUTRIENTS in different veggies....BUT HOW DO I USE THIS ? "Anne heritage vegan dog home made recipy

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Admin · February 6 at 7:01pm
Looking at nutrition; To feed all nutrients Dogs need...Here is a recipe, the base of which is the same but veg can be changed daily and mixed to provide full range of vitamins needed daily, which are 

Calcium/Choline/Chlorine/copper/Folic acid/Iodine/ Iron/Magnesium/Manganese/ Niacin/Pantothenic acid/Phosphorous/Potassium/Riboflavin/Selenium/Sodium/Thiamine/Vit b6/vit k/Zinc. All the B vits inc 12..

So, This recipe is for medium sized Dog, up or downscale for bigger or smaller Dogs;

one cup of Long grain, organic Brown Rice, 
half cup red split lentils/
Either half cup of TVP, or half cup of Tofu or Quinoa. 
Half teaspoon of yeast extract. 
Half teaspoon Turmeric, 
half teaspoon dried mint. 

Put all ingredients in a big pan, and add one mug of the following veg..put some veg from all the groups in food daily. 

The following veg are examples of what nutrients are in what veg...

For Thiamine you need some of following;Broccoli/Green Beans/Carrots/Beet greens/Green peas. 

For Calcium you need Dandelion greens/Kale/Turnips/Swede/Butternut squash/Swiss chard/Collard greens/ Fennel/Turnip greens/Celeriac/Kelp/Cabbage/Brussell sprouts. 

For Choline you need; Broccoli/Brussel sprouts/Green peas.

For Copper you need; Dried beans [precooked] /Pumpkin/Squash/Sunflower seeds. 

For Folic acid you need; Peas/Beans/ Asparagus. 

For Iodine you need;Navy beans[cooked prior]/Sea veg/ Cranberries. 

For Iron you need;Podded Peas/White button Mushrooms/Acorn Squash/Green beans/Blueberries/Blackberries. 

For Magnesium you need ;cooked Pinto beans/Artichoke hearts/Butternut Squash/Black beans[cooked] Red Kidney beans [cooked]/Soya beans [cooked]/Lentils/Chick peas. 

For Manganese you need;pumpkin seeds [ground]/Sunflower seeds [ground]/Chia/Sesame seeds [ground]/Black eyed Beans [cooked]/Tofu. 

For Niacin you need ;Sweet potatoes/ Butternut Squash/ Peas/Winter Squash. 

For Pantothenic acid you need ;Broccoli/Mushrooms/ Sunflower seeds [ground] Cauliflower. 

For Phosphorous you need ;Carrots/Artichokes/Broccoli/ Brussel Sprouts/Peas. 

For Potassium you need ;Beet greens/ Yams/ Lima Beans [cooked]/Fennel/Swiss Chard. 

For Riboflavin you need ;Mushrooms/Sesame seeds [ground].

For Selenium you need ;Pinto beans[cooked]//Lima beans [cooked]/Chia seeds [pre soaked ]/Broccoli/ Cabbage/White button mushrooms. 

For Sodium you need ;Broccoli/Carrot/Sweet potatoes. For vit B6 Apples/Artichoke/French beans/Broccoli/Cauliflower. 

For B12; yeast extract [already mentioned above]..

For vitamin K..Brussel sprouts/Kale/Cabbage/Broccoli.

For Zinc you need ;Sesame seeds [ground]/Squash/Chick peas/Pumpkin seeds [ground]/Soya beans [cooked]/Lima beans [cooked]Asparagus.Add Oil via Chia seeds, soaked for ten minutes before adding to cooked food./sesame/sunflower etc[ground ].

If you put a mix of this veg and legumes in with basic recipe daily, ie some veg from each group this should cover nutrients necessary. 

Use Organic veg where posssible, or you will be feeding toxic loads of herbicide and pesticide. 

All ingredients go in big pan. Cover with plenty of water, bring to boil and simmer for one hour.

Add oily seeds after food has been drained and cooled down. Excuse any typos."

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Noelle Obcarskas well MAYBE that is the BEST details find of Anne to date ? it gives PORTIONS cup sizes details...it talks about ESSENTIAL MINERALS and VITAMINS....NO MENTION OF TAURINE please note however....so ? WHAT ABOUT TAURINE ? question GOT ME BANNED !

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Noelle Obcarskas I DARE ! suggest the above ANNE HERITAGE RECIPES be PUT ON THE AGENDA of this TALK ! i INSIST in fact..or I will GATE CRASH the discussion.

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Noelle Obcarskas and I WANT OMEGA 3 and OMEGA 6 RATIOS for HEART ISSUES raised too as an AGENDA item ! DCM is on the increase in dogs in the non vegan fed world....it is about GRAIN FREE TREND ? or what ?

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Noelle Obcarskas TAKE CONTROL ! never mind the TAKE "BACK" CONTROL brexit slogan funded by Arron Banks who funded Trump campaign...I NEVER HAD CONTROL ! but I WILL TAKE IT ! and i say we ALL on the ground with vegan dogs will TAKE IT !

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Noelle Obcarskas I will pay...for the talks that will follow this initial freebie talk... IF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA are allowed by ME ! The philosophical issue being ...should the people be given what the NEED or what they WANT ? basic political communism versus capitalism issue too. WELL LET US MIX it hey ! maybe i and the grunts do not KNOW what we NEED ! but we want to know what we WANT to know or explained why it is irrelevant ! like ? omega 6 to omega 3 ratios ! that NO ONE managed to reply to me on before i got BANNED in the VEGAN DOG NUTRITION GROUPS !

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Noelle Obcarskas Now...that Anne Heritage must have read a lotta books to make that simpler list I posted in comment above....and that is the beauty of SIMPLICITY...KISS...KEEP IT SIMPLE AND STUPID for the grunts like me and others without TIME to learn about what a CARB looks like to know WHAT DO I DO ? that is the essential....INSTRUCTIONS and INFORMATION that help people to know WHAT TO DO !

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Noelle Obcarskas now lookie here.... i had all those details of recipes of Anne Heritage..and did i publish them on my dog nutrition links and information blog website ? no ! why not ? because I DO NOT UNDERSTAND them enough to be able to know ARE ALL THE NEEDED NUTRIENTS my large size dogs needs in them...one cabbage has different levels of minerals etc than another is common sense ! i could buy veggies that are HALF the nutrients my dogs need and it is all about QUALITY OF PRODUCE used for home made ! ANNE HERITAGE GREW HER OWN ! what we buy in shops is GARBAGE greatly...am I going to risk my dogs health on that ? and would i suggest by publishing those details that OTHERS do so ? well i say....if I WILL NOT RISK IT i do not want to encourage others to.Edit or delete this

Noelle Obcarskas I went a couple of years ago....to a PIK YOUR OWN STRAWBERRIES farm local to me. Whilst there....i saw some HUGE DANDELION leaves ....weeds my ducks loved that i would pick off road sides for them that they gobbled up immediately. So ? i take these SUPER SIZE DANDELION leaves from in the strawberries field to my ducks....and ? THEY REFUSED TO EAT THEM ! now POULTRY are the BEST species at knowning instinctively what is good for them....(unlike our dogs who would eat CHOCOLATE wolfing it down and it would KILL them) so ? if my DUCKS would not eat the PIK YOUR OWN STRAWBERRIES FIELD DANDELIONS...there was SOMETHNG WRONG WITH THEM ! so i mention this to people in passing....FERTILISERS ! are shoved constantly on this not rotated crops field to give the soil nutrients lost over the years of course ! those strawberries must be as SHIT as the UNNATURAL SUPERSIZE DANDELIONS !

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Noelle Obcarskas Go look at a BROCCOLI sold in supermarkets...WHERE IS THE LIST OF MINERALS AND VITAMINS in them ? nowhere ! of course not ! we have NO IDEA how nutritious that mass produced veggies stuff is ! I went researching...the DECLINE and VARIATION of vitamins in veggies too ! oh ja....and ? without pasting the links to articles...on individual varieties of KALE etc it was mind blowing to see the variations !

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Noelle Obcarskas Anne Heritage basing her calculations and what she fed her long lived vegan dogs...was GROWING HER OWN ORGANIC VEGGIES ! in the 1970's ! we are 30 years on from then and food nutrients have DECLINED and ARSENIC discovered in USA and Bangladesh rices ! (need rinsing 8 times and not buying those)

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Noelle Obcarskas And on that last VERY RELEVANT comment i just made...that SHOWS imho TOTAL RESPECT and BELIEF in Anne Heritage achievements....I rest my case...but i think it shows...the nutrients that WERE in the veggies etc that Anne used and grew herself also greatly ARE NOT TODAY's REALITIES anymore !

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Noelle Obcarskas One of my neighbours....with a king cav dog...aged then 8 years old...FED NON VEGAN....had a 9kGBP HEART PACE MAKER operation done on her dog ! HEART WEAK...sign was dog not able to get up on the COUCH ! several vet tests later...huge operation cost not covered by her pet insurance of course ! so ? HEART ISSUES and BREED GENETIC health issues and NUTRITION ? certainly issues.

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i said to her mother at the time who was saying...that dog is her BABY....well i would not have paid that for my heart risk dog breed...payback issue ? 8 years of their 13 average lifespan ? I would have just lifted the dog on the couch and not done as many WALKIES...but a vet told me dogs need exercise ..anyway....4 collapses in 1 year of one of my dogs hind legs....the one with relatives dying of strokes and heart attacks histories known to me....and ? no further few minutes collapses. A lab dog walker told me his dog had the same years ago and never again. Had her heart tested several times....no anomalies found...low even suggested as normal for hyper active sporty dog. BUT I HAVE BANNED BALL FETCH GAMES mostly now as the idiot dog is now 9 years old and would push herself in her FRENZY of ball fetching crazy to give herself a heart attack is what I think.Edit or delete this

Noelle Obcarskas After the op the small king cav dogs puts on 3kg excess weight ! then went on diet to lose weight. My large male put on 5kg got to 50kg so i reduced his food intake to get him back to 45kg normal for his size weight. He is a greed. On his vegan dog food. Unlike my bitch who does not put on weight like that and not a greed. He had no loss of backlegs minutes issue. Same diet same exercise. He has EPILEPSY high risk with 14 epileptic siblings including his epi father. NEUROLOGICAL issues idiopathic ones....meaning genetic. Now i did find LAMB is one of the RARE food TRIGGERS for epi and neurological fits. HE DOES NOT RISK THAT HE IS FED VEGAN ! He is the WORLD's BIGGEST BELGIAN SHEPHERD ! grew not like the ugly duckling that he was to a beautiful SWAN but a MONSTER SIZE on his vegan diet. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151381480909131&set=a.10151071536494131&type=3&theater

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Noelle Obcarskas Ah the there is another neighbour...pug breed dog....has operation to remove Kidney stones (non vegan fed) and nearly DIES as ANTIBIOTICS RESISTANT to all but 2 found just in time by vets ! where does ANTIBIOTICS RESISTANCE come from ? eating FLESH as 70 percent of all the world's antibiotics are stuffed in to FARM ANIMALS just to keep them alive long enough before killed ! chicken get the most ! how did he get KIDNEY STONES ? apparently HIGH FAT NON VEGAN DOG TREATS ! and what does that neighbour (who is vegan) say to feeding the dog VEGAN ? he does not LIKE it as much as fatty animal based dog foods ! ffs ! killing me softly with kindness ? as the song goes comes to mind. I said...I do not give a TOSS what my dog LIKES if chocolate will kill her SHE IS BANNED it ! ah there was another issue...small dog small jaws so difficult to CRUNCH the kibble pieces ! what about the WOLF TEARING CANINES stuff hey lol ? mamby pamby comes to mind. This meme i shared got THOUSANDS recently amused....https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157496472844131&set=a.10151065693844131&type=3&theater

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Noelle Obcarskas right...still no replies to IS MY TOM TURKEY with a respiratory disease ? posted in the vegans with chickens and for the love of turkeys groups....i need to start GOOGLING again to find out...what are the SOUNDS natural to a tom turkey ? they are different to the sounds of the female turkey hens see. sigh. NO IDEA ! https://youtu.be/sy17JUhyDCM NO ONE IS INTERESTED in this issue of course to have mentioned it other than COMMERCIAL TURKEY BREEDERS CULL those with mycoplasma and try stop using those for artificial insemination of eggs that have that disease common to turkeys.

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Noelle Obcarskas I JUST GOT THE ANSWER ! so i SHARE ! "There chuff chuff noises are normal don’t worry 😊 It’s all part of his display! ❤️" from FOR THE LOVE OF TURKEYS group ! well a LOTTA "CHUFF CHUFFING" going on here about ruffled feathers of not MALES but females thinking THEY are not getting as much attention hey wink wink ! in the non human animal world...MALES are the DRESSY showey ones to attract the FEMALES who they rape in reality mostly ....yes i made a mistake getting a male turkey....this morning all the females had left the enclosure and were in the kitchen to avoid him mounting them....https://youtu.be/sy17JUhyDCM well I dunno all that racket they make in the sex act maybe natural shrieks of pleasure ? who knows.

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Noelle Obcarskas I shall end on this theme of RECOGNISING THOSE WHO PROVIDE INFORMATION to the mass public to encourage VEGAN DOG FEEDING....pls note i avoided the word LEADERS....i think that word is OVER RATED ! we are ALL LEADERS if we SET EXAMPLES ! and tell others and the public of what we do and what information we use is shared ! it is about time people stopped IDOL WORSHIPING the so called LEADERS also...WHAT HAS TIM SHIEFF the COVER of VIVA MAGAZINE famous vegan winner of the NINJA athletics etc achieved ? he has SLATED AND DONE ANTI VEGAN YOUTUBE video ! is eating suffocated FISH and EGGS again ! after 2 years of drinking his own urine and believing in a flat earth mental problems imho ! Before that we had GARY YOUROFSKY who was a BRILLIANT speaker converted millions to veganism who blurts some seized on I HATE HUMANS comments to discredit his burnt out passions and some political nutters into disagreeing with his human politics views etc etc sigh. HE burns out....slated everywhere for the 10 percent of idiocies he spouted rather than the 90 percent VEGAN ISSUES AWARENESS he managed...so ? HITLER and MUSSOLINI were LEADERS ! hardly a TITLE anyone shares wants to be associated with hey ! the TITLE is meaningless in itself.....GARY FRANCIONE the USA LEGAL LAW PROFESSOR vegan LEADER is BANNED by the UK VEGAN SOCIETY for his anti WELFARE views in favour of ABOLITIONIST VEGANISM views ! right....so I would not worry about NOBEL PRIZE WINNER LEADER of BURMA either title who is into genocide of the Rohinga populations ! the title LEADER is a mixed bag in reality ! I suggest EVERYONE takes LEADERSHIP SERIOUSLY to improve the world...take my quote on my vegan website of the HOBBIT ! i wrote...EVEN THE SMALLEST PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE ! Galadrial said that to Frodo ! it is the HOBBITS not the royalty that win against evil in that LORD OF THE RINGS novel ! it is a symbiotic relationship.....mutual needs...we need EXPERTS and THEY NEED US ! alone we cannot win as our WAYS are different ! our messages are different ! the way we think is different ! what we understand is different ! only in tandem can complexities be reduced to understandable usable tools ! BRAMBLE had no interest in her NAME living forever ! yet us humans want that kindda thing lol ! or we are OFFENDED ! all this TOSH over who is the best LEADER is TOSH ! TAKE CONTROL ! LEAD ! https://youtu.be/g8jGaRkVCyY

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Noelle Obcarskas Not that anyone has mentioned the speakers much on a subject that i think worth mentioning however ....can we imagine...the ridicule...the hostility...that these professionals belonging to organisations that live off the DEATHS of all these farmed animals out there if supplying the antibiotics and drugs and supervising the killings got.....when they kicked off with studies saying OBLIGATE CARNIVORES could thrive on VEGAN PET FOODS ? can we even start to imagine that ? i have seen on some youtube video talks of theirs comments like "quack" and "should have their qualifications taken off them" and those are just the VEGUSTO Swiss vegan food supplier videos lol ! here is a topic about the EGO of someone offended by not being RESPECTED....and ? WHAT RESPECT did these DARE DEVILS i suggest rather than using the word PIONEERS in their VETERINARY HOSTILE TO NO KILL TRADITIONAL PROFESSIONS think of them ? well ? all well and good the likes of us grunts in different worlds spouting FEED VEGAN we are not ridiculed for IGNORANCE ATTACKS in our fields hey ! but THOSE are ! were ! and still they stand firm hey ! well. Some took a stand in the heart of those best able to help change the world where the greatest hostility was and is still to be faced. I think LISTENING to them and having SOME RESPECT for them has been earned for those wanting to learn more about CRUELTY FREE POSSIBILITIES ....pet food....is the 5th largest population continent in the world based on animal protein. And...SAS motto...WHO DARES WINS does not often apply in practice in the human professional world when one goes against tradition. Do we imagine THEY unlike others did not do not get HATE MAIL ? ridicule for promoting such things ? where can they hide ? being so PUBLIC ! ? Vets....earn from the meat based pet foods they sell...THEY ARE NOT INDEPENDENT ! only WE the buyers can push for change knowing that ! https://youtu.be/CkKBdg81T9c

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Noelle Obcarskas May I share also...when i posted a German language version of this detailed list of Anne Heritage home made recipy....first the details i posted..." Ich mitteile...was Bramble Hund der 25 Jahre lang gelebt hat als Kentnisse von Anne Heritage ueber Naehrestoffe...weil dies ist bestimmt etwas zu anfangen zu verstehend was fuer Inhalt moeglich ist.

Google Uebersetzung benutzt dafuer...also auch Englische Text dabei.

Blick auf Ernährung; Um alle Nährstoffe zu füttern Hunde brauchen ... Hier ist ein Rezept, dessen Basis ist das gleiche, aber Gemüse kann täglich gewechselt und gemischt werden, um die gesamte Palette von Vitaminen täglich benötigt, die sind

Calcium / Cholin / Chlor / Kupfer / Folsäure / Jod / Eisen / Magnesium / Mangan / Niacin / Pantothensäure / Phosphor / Kalium / Riboflavin / Selen / Natrium / Thiamin / Vit b6 / vit k / Zink. Alle B vits inkl. 12 ..

Also, Dieses Rezept ist für mittelgroße Hunde, höher oder niedriger für größere oder kleinere Hunde;

eine Tasse Langkorn, Bio-brauner Reis,
halbe Tasse rote Split-Linsen /
Entweder halbe Tasse TVP oder halbe Tasse Tofu oder Quinoa.
Ein halber Teelöffel Hefeextrakt.
Halber Teelöffel Kurkuma,
halber Teelöffel getrocknete Minze.

Setzen Sie alle Zutaten in eine große Pfanne, und fügen Sie einen Becher mit dem folgenden Gemüse .. Geben Sie etwas Gemüse aus allen Gruppen in Lebensmitteln täglich.

Die folgenden Gemüse sind Beispiele dafür, welche Nährstoffe in welchem ​​Gemüse sind ...

Für Thiamin benötigen Sie einige der folgenden : Brokkoli / Grüne Bohnen / Karotten / Rote Beete / Grüne Erbsen.

Für Calcium benötigen Sie Dandelion Greens / Kale / Turnips / Schweden / Butternut Squash / Mangold / Collard Greens / Fenchel / Kohlrabi / Celeriac / Kelp / Kohl / Brussell Sprossen.

Für Cholin brauchst du; Broccoli / Rosenkohl / grüne Erbsen.

Für Kupfer brauchst du; Getrocknete Bohnen [vorgekocht] / Kürbis / Kürbis / Sonnenblumenkerne.

Für Folsäure brauchst du; Erbsen / Bohnen / Spargel.

Für Jod brauchen Sie , Marinebohnen [vorher gekocht] / Sea veg / Cranberries.

Für Eisen brauchen Sie , Poded Peas / White Taste Pilze / Acorn Squash / grüne Bohnen / Blaubeeren / Brombeeren.

Für Magnesium braucht man: gegarte Pinto-Bohnen / Artischockenherzen / Butternut-Kürbis / Schwarze Bohnen [gekocht] Rote Kidneybohnen [gekocht] / Sojabohnen [gekocht] / Linsen / Kichererbsen.

Für Mangan braucht man : Kürbiskerne [gemahlen] / Sonnenblumenkerne [gemahlen] / Chia / Sesamsamen [gemahlen] / Schwarzäugige Bohnen [gekocht] / Tofu.

Für Niacin brauchen Sie ; Süßkartoffeln / Butternut Squash / Erbsen / Winter Squash.

Für Pantothensäure benötigen Sie : Brokkoli / Pilze / Sonnenblumenkerne [Boden] Blumenkohl.

Für Phosphor brauchen Sie : Karotten / Artischocken / Brokkoli / Rosenkohl / Erbsen.

Für Kalium braucht man: Rübengrüns / Yams / Lima Bohnen [gekocht] / Fenchel / Mangold.

Für Riboflavin braucht man: Pilze / Sesamsamen [Boden].

Für Selen brauchen Sie : Pinto Bohnen [gekocht] // Limabohnen [gekocht] / Chia Samen [ vor eingeweicht ] / Brokkoli / Kohl / Weiße Champignons.

Für Natrium brauchen Sie : Brokkoli / Karotten / Süßkartoffeln. Für vit B6 Äpfel / Artischocken / Grüne Bohnen / Brokkoli / Blumenkohl.

Für B12; Hefeextrakt [bereits oben erwähnt] ..

Für Vitamin K .. Rosenkohl / Kale / Kohl / Broccoli.

Für Zink brauchen Sie : Sesamsamen [Boden] / Squash / Kichererbsen / Kürbiskerne [gemahlen] / Sojabohnen [gekocht] / Limabohnen [gekocht] Spargel.Öl hinzufügen über Chia-Samen, eingeweicht für zehn Minuten vor der Zugabe zu gekochtem Essen ./sesame/sunflower usw. [Boden].

Wenn Sie eine Mischung aus Gemüse und Hülsenfrüchten täglich mit Grundrezept einfüllen, also etwas Gemüse aus jeder Gruppe, sollte dies die notwendigen Nährstoffe enthalten.

Verwenden Sie , wo möglich , Bio-Gemüse , oder Sie werden giftige Mengen von Herbiziden und Pestiziden füttern.

Alle Zutaten gehen in große Pfanne. Mit reichlich Wasser bedecken, zum Kochen bringen und eine Stunde köcheln lassen.

Fügen Sie ölige Samen hinzu, nachdem das Essen abgelassen und abgekühlt wurde. Entschuldigen Sie alle Tippfehler." https://www.facebook.com/groups/153605418628457/

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Noelle Obcarskas here was the reply to that above post "Ein Supplement wird auch das viele Gemüse nicht in ausreichender Form abdecken, vor allem nicht wenn es gekocht wurde, da geht viel verloren.
Und Hefeextrakt ist auch keine B12 Quelle!
Bitte bei selbst gekochtem wirklich entsprechende Supplemente verwenden, die sind nicht teuer, aber bewahren die Hunde vor einer Mangelernährung.
Sonst sehen das einige wieder als Bestätigung dass vegan für den Hund ungesund ist." In short missing translation of some details....the conclusion stated is...<<SUPPLEMENTS NEEDED for home made recipies. Not expensive but essential for completeness of nutrients.>> MY FEELING EXACTLY SEE MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON REDUCTION OF NUTRIENTS IN MODERN VEGGIES.

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Gypsie V Brinson my 3 rescued staffies have been vegan now for 11 years, when I first adopted my eldest staffie I was convinced that feeding her "dog food" was the best thing for her, but over time she became very ill & very sick, so I looked into what could be causing this & came to find out that it was her "food" I was already vegan myself & knew how healthy I felt so I decided to change her "diet" she soon became healthy again & stopped being sick, 11 years on & she hardly ever needs to see a vet, last time she had a check up they had to double check her records as they couldn't understand why she was/is so fit & healthy for her age :)

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Antonia Jacobs What do you feed them if you don't mind me asking?

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Gypsie V Brinson my 3 eat a lot of fresh veg & fruit (not all fruit & veg is safe so always double check), brown rice, lentils etc, when i'm working long hours they also eat V-Dog with plenty of fresh veg, but there are so many good alternatives out there these days that make feeding dogs cruelty free possible & very easy

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Pablo Apio Castro Espina Gypsie V Brinson Great, thank you for sharing, I wanted to know did you always supplemet taurine and carnitine?

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Noelle Obcarskas 2 vegan dogs here. one 9 years old the other 8 years old. Fed since 5 years plant based started on royal canin vegetarian prescription to cure stomac ulcers medication was not clearing High risk breed for stomac cancer epilepsy and heart issues and strokes...hyper energy needs dogs (my cat is also fed vegan) currently fed Benevo and V-Dog and sometimes home made Compassion Circle recepies the lentils one liked greatly.

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Andy Schulgasser I just euthanized my dog last month just 3 months before she turned 20 years old. 

She was destroyed by neglectful vets office. She would have lived beyond 20 if not for being stuck there when I was taken to ER for broken arm. 
She was vegan since I got her when she was 14 years old. 
One of the many things this vets office did was yell at me on phone when I was in hospital telling me dogs must eat meat & they refused to give her the vegan organic human food that I arranged to have brought there. Instead they gave her their garbage meat dog food. 
They also refused to walk her & so much more. 
Wish I could afford attorney to sue. 
I did report them to California Vet Medical Board.

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Lucy Davies I'm so sorry for your loss. The treatment you and your dog received is unforgivable. I would name and shame them. 
I'm unsure why you didn't make sure they would care for her properly and why they objected so strongly to feeding her food she was accustomed to.
Not a vet I would go to and I hope they are held accountable for her loss :(

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Andy Schulgasser Lucy Davies she was brought there by friend who though they would care for her. Especially for the charge of $320/nite. Every day was battling with them on the phone begging them to give her the basic care. It was a nightmare. 

I gave review on yelp of my exact same experience there. Someone responded by just calling me a bitch. I reported them to yelp & I believe they removed it.

I decided few years ago that i can no longer handle dealing with vets offices that are decent, battling rentals with outrageous fees & horrible designs for animals so I’m done with adopting animals. 

I will get my animal fix by working with others animals only. No more fighting with organizations

Thank you so much for your thoughts

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Katrina Fox Clare Mann Rach V MoranDenise Tuck Tara Maher FYI.

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Clare Mann My dogs are vegan - I took a 12 year old once called Topaz who was so malnurished, she had fungal infections, no hair on her back (german shepherd/kelpie), and skeletal. I put her on a vegan diet and she lives a full life with a full coat of hair and vitality until 17! We can't abuse one animal to be kind to another

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Amy Johnson Awesome!

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Gypsie V Brinson It was my rescue staffies birthday on Saturday so I made her a birthday cake, not bad for a non-bake, cruelty free cake :D
Ingredients : 3 bananas, 1 tablespoon of ground flax seed, 1 cup of soya milk, 4 cups of oats & 1 cup of dog peanut butter
Method : mix all together & place in fridge for 2 hours

Decorate with carrots (optional)

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Noelle Obcarskas nice cake. excuse me for making a comment but the issue is TREATS. I avoid them. Why ? i worry that if my dogs eat treats they will not eat their proper food as much. Since that is where the balanced nutrients are....i fear they might miss nutrients they need or get excess of some that are bad for them if i give them treats. Now this will go down like a lead balloon to the dog treat producers of course.....some non vegan ones have started vegan treats in the petsathome shops i noticed...but other than rice bones for occupying the dogs while i am watching tv or online and good for their teeth...i avoid all treats. Mean ? well of course veggiepets do some lovely looking carrot cakes.i still have the packets i like carrot cake so might make them for myself lol

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Gypsie V Brinson my girls birthday only comes round once a year & when it does I like to make a fuss of her, so each year she gets to open a big box of new toys & I make her something special to eat, as you can see the ingredients in this "cake" are very healthy so I know my dog(s) are still eating good food, plus once a year don't hurt nobody if I was feeding them this everyday then yes I would agree that it wasn't healthy but once a year is fine, there's a lot worse on the market that people feed there dogs every day

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Christine Burgemeester Vegan cats, mixture of cats that stay and cats who moved out (fosters). We'll be there!

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Denise Bradford I would like to suggest the term ‘vegipet’ when talking about companion pets that eat plant based. I am just concerned that we confuse people when we refer to pets as vegan because that reduces veganism to a diet rather than a way of getting justice for the animals and protecting the environment.

Heard it first here! 😀

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Noelle Obcarskas now that is an interesting point. i agree vegan means the ethics philosophy of life that non human animals do not share with us they do choose to kill or not kill depending on hunger empathy all sorts but we cannot ascribe a philosophy to then as we do not think like them. to be precise vegan is a term applicable to humans and yes as u say plant based is more applicable if talking diets. however. this semantics issue...is not one i bother my head about much when discussing m VEGAN CAT with grunts. it does come up in the "discussion" or whiplashes when they say put a bowl of meat in front of a dog or cat and see which they prefer....well i reply well put a bowl of chocolate in front a a cat or dog and watch them DIE eating it....however the point they are really makng is the dog or cat is not making a VEGAN philosophy but simply eating what is presented to them. which is correct. Except in cases where lions care for a baby herbivore out of empathy not eating it. not going to try that too often on mice with cats. or dogs. coodgey coo empathy for babies does not always work on humans either. Well where am i going with this ramble ? just to say....i think between educated VEGANS the term PLANT BASED is more correct when talking dog and cats diets. However. I deal with grunts. I lean towards the shorter simpler word VEGAN as i write so much 1 less word is at least that to spare people the headache lol !

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Noelle Obcarskas oh ...dumbo here meaning me missed that you did not suggest the term PLANT BASED but VEGGIEPET. ah. well that is a new word for me. Would take time to be able to spell consistently right...i mean there is VeggiePets.com andwww.vegepets.com. one with 2 g's and then the issue of with or without an i.

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Noelle Obcarskas so now we have 3 TERMS to summarise. VEGAN, PLANT BASED or VEGIEPETS. what about...just adding the word FED to the end of the word VEGAN ?

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Noelle Obcarskas 3 sylllables is in VEGGYPETS (yes maybe a Y not ie) . dog order words need to be ideally 2 syllables....even VEGAN FED is 3 syllables. PLANT BASED is 2 syllables. HUMANS ARE NOT DOGS ! maybe we GRUNTS can deal with more than 2 syllables ?

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Noelle Obcarskas actually yesterday off to share this post to "vegetarian" pages i was interested to find there are not many VEGETARIAN pages or groups out there ! but in the shops yesterday i was pissed off as i had nothing to eat as the coop shop in the uk selling some QUORN COTTAGE PIE was with some butter in it...only found out when i got to the till and asked again as did not get my reading glasses out.i say JUST LOOK FOR THE WORDS IN BOLD to save them reading a ream of ingredients. MILK is always by law in BOLD ....then she says BUTTER sigh. no dinner for me yesterday. ICELAND NO BULL ORIGINAL BURGERS TODAY got tho in Gwersyllt Wales ! that darned urban sprawl place is full of dead ends with no turning facilities in the cul de sac estate houses sigh. NO signs as typical to the ICELAND shop and i had forgotten my satnav. 1gb per burger is pricey. I really need to learn to cook. NOT that their RECIPY is going to be made public hey ! SECRETS issue !

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Noelle Obcarskas it is ONLY A LITTLE BIT is something said to me when getting pedantic about this "little bit" of butter. sigh. i wish the macartneys ,,,,are the mccartney or mc cartney or mac cartney....anyway...they have dairy in many of their foods. then there was the time i MADE MY DOGS SICK one xmas run out of veggiepets uk benevo i go buy some QUORN for them thinking oh well PROTEIN...they puked. Ah i recall a spat on the uk vegan dog nutrition groups that had not banned me there yet about that...i said QUORN = BAD = MUSHROOMS = FUNGHI= BAD....others disagreed. I know of a HUMAN who will not eat quorn as it is a FUNGUS.

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Noelle Obcarskas it might have been simply that my dog breed is HIGHLY SENSITIVE STOMACS...get ulcers and cancer there easily and dogs generally do not like VARIETY in diets my male dog breeder told me to stop me chopping and changing his food. Or was it that QUORN is FUNGUS so mushroom family so BAD FOR DOGS ? This was one of my dogs poohing with her back to a deer.

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Noelle Obcarskas I DO NOT FEED QUORN TO MY DOGS anymore. That day...another discovery actually....that xmas last minute shop ...i went to the FROZEN VEGGIES looking for PARSNIPS as i love roast parsnips....and on a packet of some rice or stuff i see VEGETARIAN ! wtf ! is there DAIRY in frozen veggies ? i start to ask in the CO OP and they say WRITE TO THE MANAGEMENT so i did. the ENTIRE co op shop in Copthorne Shrewsbury had a discussion not about XMAS PRESSIES but DOGS EATING QUORN and VEGETARIAN NOT VEGAN FROZEN VEGGIES ! i assure you.....it was a SHOP STOPPER ! There i was...buying several packets of QUORN asking IS THIS OK FOR MY DOGS ? well the co op shops in the UK are not NUTRITIONISTS...and then i added...MY MOTHER IS LACTOSE INTOLLERANT so have these FROZEN VEGETARIAN MARKED VEGGIES got MILK in them ? Not taking out reading glasses to read for myself....I DEMAND that SERVICE from people in the shops....workers or customers....and it is EDUCATIONAL !

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Noelle Obcarskas EEEEK !!! quorn ! has EGGS in it ! Quorn is a meat substitute product originating in the UK and sold primarily in Europe, but also available in 19 countries.[1] Quorn is sold as both a cooking ingredient and as the meat substitute used in a range of prepackaged meals.

All Quorn foods contain mycoprotein as an ingredient, which is derived from the Fusarium venenatum fungus and is grown by fermentation.[2] In most Quorn products, the fungus culture is dried and mixed with egg albumen, which acts as a binder, and then is adjusted in texture and pressed into various forms. A vegan formulation also exists that uses potato protein as a binder instead of egg albumen.

Quorn was launched in 1985 by Marlow Foods, a joint venture between Rank Hovis McDougall (RHM) and Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), and is now owned by Monde Nissin Corporation.[3]

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Noelle Obcarskas eeek...In 2004, McDonald's introduced a Quorn-branded burger bearing the seal of approval of the Vegetarian Society.[21][22] As of 2009, the Quorn burgers were no longer available at any McDonald's restaurant in the UK. In 2011 Quorn Foods launched a vegan burger into the US market, using potato protein as a binder instead of egg albumen, to confer vegan status.[23] According to Quorn's website, by 2013 a number of Quorn items were available in US markets, most of which are vegetarian but not vegan, as they contain milk or cheese and egg white or albumen. In addition, some contain wheat, gluten and/or soy.

As of 2014, it was reported that most consumers of Quorn are meat eaters rather than vegetarians.[24] The market for Quorn products is increasing worldwide and the company expects further growth

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Noelle Obcarskas eeeek...Quorn's acceptance in the vegetarian market was hampered by the use of battery eggs in its production process, a practice opposed on ethical grounds by many in the vegetarian community. For this reason, the Vegetarian Society initially did not …See More

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Noelle Obcarskas eeeek...While adverse reactions were reported for one in 146,000 people who ate Quorn, this rose to one in 35 who ate shellfish and one in 350 who ate soya.. WHERE DO DOGS FIGURE IN THIS QUORN ISSUE ?

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Noelle Obcarskas yeah well that was a question ANNE HERITAGE could not reply to i add...the BRAMBLE vegan fed dog owner...ok ok CARER if we are on the theme of PC words to use sigh.....i got flack for referring to my DOGS as BLACKIES even sometimes sigh...why would Anne stuck in the 1970's not know about QUORN ? Originally conceived in 1985 and owned by Marlow Foods is why. It came out in the 80's. I recall my old boy (meaning my late father) tried it out first. That is BUCKINGHAMSHIRE also another issue and she is SUMMERSET or is it SOMERSET as in Somerset Notes the publisher she fell out with ? oh well the 70's were when pet food makers dscovered cats were going blind and dying due to meat foods not having TAURINE in them so they added the SYNTHETIC so VEGAN taurine as standard now in ALL petfoods. PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS when grunting "CATS NEED TAURINE" still decades later hey ! well never mind ? nope it is HARD WORK educating people about history of just the 70's hey ! David Bowie was the 70's....now i must shut up. https://youtu.be/1Oet1pKb0Vo

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Noelle Obcarskas yes i read...no it was on tv Gordon Ramsey hotel shows ...he was whining about the taste of some food he was eating...found out the meat was FROZEN so he says....that DRIES out and then cooking MORE DRIES it. Right. So the TAURINE is already missing in modern flesh meat as less than in adult wild animals grown naturally to adult size not 6 weeks as in the case of broiler chickens who reach adult size in their 19 adult size ones to 1m2 DEFRA uk standard cages.....then as unnaturally FROZEN then COOKED the whole stuff is destroyed or leaks out ! so they add SYNTHETIC vegan taurine to cat foods. ALL the supplements sold and used by RAW CAT FEEDERS are SYNTHETIC so vegan additionally. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME ! feeding dead bodies people have to ADD VEGAN ESSENTIALS TO HEY !

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Noelle Obcarskas QUORN ! is a FUNGUS ! so mushroom family so besides the EGG issues that are non vegan and anyway eggs not good for dogs....eggs by LAW cannot be labelled as HEALTHY because THEY ARE NOT ! they give breast and prostate cancers.......IS QUORN BAD FOR DOGS ? with or without the eggs ? I say BAD !

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Noelle Obcarskas When trying to AVOID hostility to the word VEGAN i find it useful to say LACTOSE INTOLLERANT lol ! kill my mother ? eek that gets people more POSITIVE lol ! never mind the KILL MY VEGAN FED DOGS on QUORN issue hey !

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Noelle Obcarskas ffs....getting BANNED in most VEGANS UK groups I must have failed to notice..."The majority of the Quorn product range still contains a small amount of egg white or milk ingredients, so are not suitable for vegans.
Recipes, Products and News from Quorn - A Healthy Protein
https://www.quorn.co.uk/faqs/nutrition"

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Noelle Obcarskas right...so having just shared this post in UK ACTIVISM somewhere suprisingly i have NOT yet been banned....i shall serach QUORN issue there lol https://www.facebook.com/groups/103751566773561/permalink/572169256598454/

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Noelle Obcarskas eeek ! i also posted that quorn comment in UK VEGANS ! they had CLOSED a thread ASKING the question ! eeeek ! quorn is as bad as PET FOOD posts in many vegan groups it seems ! gets CLOSED THREADS !

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Noelle Obcarskas ooh my quorn posts in UK groups getting reactions...VILE is one...and someone said Some is, and they are clearly marked with vegan on the front of the package. But yeah, most is just veggie....anyway. I SAID MAKES MY DOGS PUKE ! oh someone wrote it is a ....ouff....what is the word ? "It's not fungus though, it's mould" ok ok...PEDANTIC scientific terms again....IT IS BAD ! QUORN = BAD for DOGS is what i firmly believe......my dogs PUKED on it. EXCUSE THE GRUNT TERMS lol "You omitted the first bit....
'Quorn foods have a vegan range which is suitable for those following a vegan diet. Products in the range include Vegan Pieces, Vegan Fillets, Vegan Crunchy Nuggets, Vegan Hot & Spicy burgers, Vegan Chicken Free Deli Slices, Vegan Ham Free Deli Slices. You can find out more about the range here. We try to ensure Vegan products are clearly marked, to make them easy to find instore, and this seems to be working, as the range continues to grow.'
Quorn have only recently added a vegan range...it is a culture normally grown on egg white..." I replied..."cheers that helps. i just pasted from google search yes. IT IS BAD FOR DOGS however is what i firmly believe my dogs PUKED on it and fungi mushroom family foods are toxic to dogs." ooh....seeing the "someone is typing" comments in VEGANS UK group this post of mine is getting immediate reactions ! i did post the DOG FOOD TALKS post there also lol !

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Noelle Obcarskas aha...got BUY IN....in vegans uk on the QUORN post someone wrote..."We dont give our dogs any human scraps...too much salt, but also onion, garlic and lots of other things are not good for them! Pasta or rice are good for emergencies" and i replied...exactly i came to this discovery of QUORN talking in comments on a VEGAN DOGS talk post....i feed my dogs Benevo uk made vegan dog food and my cat ami italian mostly. I am not into TREATS i was saying as that unbalances their nutrition balances. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2667818326568851&set=a.393567567327283&type=3&theater

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Noelle Obcarskas hilarious ! one quorn reaction comment in vegans uk is " I'd sooner eat dog shit
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Noelle Obcarskas now what is interesting to me...is that my a few days ago post of this VEGAN DOG TALK in the uk vegans group....got MINIMAL REACTIONS ! 6likes only since the post date of 18th feb....so ? A PROPHET IS WITHOUT HONOUR IN HIS OWN COUNTRY expression comes to mind...i had written to ENTICE the NATIONALISM of brexit little Britiain..."uk vet Dr Knight Talking soon !" https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKVegansOfficial/?hc_ref=ARTmPrli4CtFUZ3A5lY_1FHO39fG7JdICdN0stMa0f8C0YLXDgLIbUgfKMvGNjDVRC4 my post there about the stats of 27 percent of usa vegans feeding pets vegan got even LESS likes ! at least not BANNED or CLOSED i add ! 3 years ago...I was getting ANIMAL ABUSER comments in UK VEGAN groups for introductory post of my vegan dogs picture ! ffs....what a VILE mentality hey ! yesterday too ! on some DOGFOOD RECALL post i got DOGS NEED MEAT grunts and laughs about animals eaten ! i BLOCKED that one eventually....yep....one gives the info and BREXITS oneself hey and BLOCK the dickheads OIKS even i say ! let them DIGEST the info over time without winding me up hey ! oh my worst out of exhasperation reply sometimes is...GO EAT YOUR DOG or CAT then or OWN MOTHER even, see if I care ! said that to some fishermen objecting to my dogs swimming where they were fishing one day....it was a PUBLIC BEACH on some filthy river Dee in Chester river full of plastics sick toxins....they thought it was about me being VEGAN with the tshirt as to why i was disturbing them....it was a HOT DAY my dogs needed to swim. Told them to eat their own mothers in the end and see if i cared ! I was called the RUDEST person they had ever met. I replied...well you have led a SHELTERED LIFE then lol They called me FLOWER ! and effed and blinded at me simultaneously ! I have always thought....and said...the so called TOP CLASS use the same language as the LOWER CLASS and their lagerloutish behaviour so typical of Britain albeit the higher classes drink CHARDONAY or Castello del Diablo rather than Galahad's Lager based on survey of mine of litter in the Duke of Westminster's Woodland Drive woods in Chester are also equally VILE. and ps GALAHAD whilst named after the most PURE of King Arthur's knights is made in EUROPE not BRITAIN and only EXPORTED to BRITAIN as no other country lowers themselves to drink that...and it is the vilest lager experts in lager say to drink. CATS' PISS is the expression.

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Noelle Obcarskas Now that brings me to my point that it is EASIER for ME to argue why i feed my dogs vegan....my bitch got STOMAC ULCERS so had to go vegan.....only then did i start to research about ME going vegan. She went vegan for HEALTH REASONS not my ideology ....which is an often made criticism of vegan dog or cat feeders. I am fortunate i say about that....if like others they feed vegan for ideology save animals reasons not just HEALTH they have a harder time of it for defending themselves. I add the CAT fed vegan was just me deciding of course since there are vegan cat foods available WHY NOT ? reason. I always SAVE that PUNCH LINE for the last defense i add in discussions...I allow the ANIMAL ABUSER rants a while and the FORCING IDEOLOGY on my PETS rants before ending with IDIOTS ! MY DOG HAD TO GO VEGAN I WENT VEGAN BECAUSE OF MY DOG YOU PRATS ! ASSUMING ! MAKES AN ASS OUT OF YOU AND ME ! NEVER ASSUME ! ASS U ME ! I still get the.....can you not add SOME meat to her diet now ? type comments lol ! and then i reply DO NOT TELL ME TO KILL MY DOG YOU TOTAL DORK ! yes flowery language flows. This was at the TATTON PARK FLOWER SHOW. Deer raised to kill and eat of course. Dogs off leads. Well ja know....my dogs cannot be bothered chasing other people's property ! more interested in eating their pooh lol ! Vitamin B12 is it ?

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Noelle Obcarskas ps the most famous dog on youtube.....JESUS CHRIST ? or FENTON ? do not think he was vegan ! and LOOK WHAT A FINE MESS HE GOT HIS LAWYER OWNER INTO HEY ! the queen's deer chased ! instead of eating their poops ! https://youtu.be/3GRSbr0EYYU 13 million views of this one ! needs a FEED VEGAN COMMENT from MOI ? about to do one lol ! of this TALK !

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Noelle Obcarskas done ! i posted comment....Calling all dog lovers! Do you wish you could feed your dog delicious, nutritious meals WITHOUT meat and other animal products? Are you wondering if your dog can thrive on a well-balanced plant-based diet? The answer is YES!
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Noelle Obcarskas oh well. was better to post the talk link on the FENTON JESUS CHRIST dog youtube video ! i just remade my less interesting one on vegan dogs and deer public again....https://youtu.be/tzfz4XIJjho

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Noelle Obcarskas i do not have the video of my dogs holding off the Duke of Westminster name Grosvenor herd of cows in a field i wandered into by mistake as i was too busy trying to climb out over the barbed wire with the dogs holding off the charged me cows. Feet short sharp stomps is my bitch efficient technique to spook the huge animals while my male barks like most noisy males. Effective however. Then I lifted the dogs over when I was safe.

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Noelle Obcarskas aha ! getting buy in on another page for this...https://www.facebook.com/.../permalink/254143925092070/... WE CARE ABOUT ANIMALS PAGE ! ok my point is....if a SHARE to specific related groups like DOGS pages and groups does not work or is ignored....GET the link to this picture and talk on vegan dog food issues into a comment on some related topic ! QUORN was a useful piggy back example i used recently...IS QUORN GOOD or BAD for DOGS ? question and link to the discussion or monologue to be precise in comments i made here lol ! i am pondering...on whether to post this talk link into the DCM DOGS HEALTH group I belong to...not sure if the talk will deal with the topic of heart DCM disease in dogs...i have seen one post positive about vegan fed dogs in there for a high risk breed the labradors...but should i risk getting BANNED in that group for posting this talk ? so...question for Dr Andrew Knight and Armaiti May .if you tell me that DCM heart issues wil be mentioned in the talks...i will POST this TALK link in the DCM DOGS group ! https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/

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Noelle Obcarskas aha...see a tomatoes in DOG NUTRITION community page article....so added the talk link there...https://www.facebook.com/doggonutrition/posts/334346127168205

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Noelle Obcarskas ok ok...relevant topic comment needed here....done...https://www.facebook.com/.../a.20800.../2413162335363726/...

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Noelle Obcarskas ah...must go post to the SWEDEN LABRADORS laboratory testing hoo haa posts too. Already rattled those saying WHAT ABOUT THE LAB MICE TOO ? not as FLUFFY cuddly as DOGS hey ! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php...HELP ANIMALS ! BE THEIR VOICE page name !

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Noelle Obcarskas PETS AT HOME uk stores pages also commented on. Now got loads of abuse in the past for posting my vegan dogs on adverts of non vegan petfoods there....THAT IS PART OF THE GAME hey ! part of the course if one DARES promote one's own VEGAN DOGS ! https://www.facebook.com/petsa.../posts/10161614688635372...

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Noelle Obcarskas ok....this was STAGE 1. Initial postings. Nearer the time of the talks ? REPOSTS needed. BUMP the existing posts and comments made by MORE comments tactics. Find out what is TRENDING in the news...find a relevant comment ref DOG FOOD to make...and comment appropriately. Food, dogs, pets, dog pooh, rescues, animals, wildlife, pollution, health, antibiotics, petfood recalls etc do NOT FORGET youtube dog health pets related video comments too ! WHO HAS POSTED THIS TALK IN the VEGAN DOGS NUTRITION GROUPS HEY ? i am BANNED in those myself so cannot lol ! WHERE ARE THEY ? the VEGAN FED DOGS ? in those groups ? promoting these talks ? I WANNA KNOW ! bunch of GROUPIES i say to that....STUFF groupies...I have some pages publically readable of DOG NUTRITION INFORMATION LINKS ! oh ja....here is one of them ! and WHERE IS ANNE HERITAGE LINK in there ? nowhere ! she has not DONE a page to provide a link to since 1972 ! or even then ! my BRAMBLE facebook simple page done was TAKEN DOWN ! intellectual effin property claimed ! for a PICTURE only that AMAZONE BOOKS provided ! they did not object ! ANNE DID ! wtf use was that to ANIMALS hey ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/catsanddogsnutrition/ THIS IS MY PAGE !

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Noelle Obcarskas oh and this page is mine too...https://www.facebook.com/groups/catsdogsnutritionlinks/

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Noelle Obcarskas and this is my page too...https://www.facebook.com/veganlionesslittletyke/

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Noelle Obcarskas and this is my page too..https://www.facebook.com/newlittletykes/

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Noelle Obcarskas PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) and Mercy For Animals and Wirral Animal Sanctuary- The Hog Centre and Animal Aid and Abolitionist Vegan.com Ronnie Lee Friends of the Earth Earthling Ed and James Aspeyand VIVA ? cannot tag...UK AR society...Viva UK ? POST on their posts needed...PROMOTE VEGAN DOG FOOD TALKS COMING UP EVEN T ! the Vegan Outreach Vegan The Vegan Society of ourse Gary Francione has BANNED me not able to tag those INTELLECTUALS grunting on their own abolitionist vegan page monologues...mostly ranting against everyone else in the vegan world...Gary Yourofsky has BURNT OUT fed up with the what are they called ? sigh...big word...SJWs...social justice warriors....too busy arguing for which way human toilets should point to please religious groups of humans...Veganism Worldwide Animal Liberation & Veganism WWF

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Noelle Obcarskas ah just got accepted to a new group on DCM in dogs...https://www.facebook.com/groups/613256769040202/ now...found several VEGAN articles in there...need to read...so...need a reply ...from Andrew Knight or Armaiti May before i post the TALKS links post in that group to know...will DCM be mentioned in the talks ? then i post this talks on vegan dogs post in there too....

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https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/ResourcesforYou/AnimalHealthLiteracy/ucm616279.htm?fbclid=IwAR2Ndq9c7nPDNuPvi1uKjsljlDs_inYVkAiUPK_M6QdxM8VHnLHLA1UkVhU hot off the presses news from FDA report on DCM....over the past 4 years....For me...seeing 90 percent of all cases were on "grain free" diets...that is significant. Of the 325 dogs diagnosed with DCM 74 died and of the 10 cats with DCM 2 died...so highly fatal condition ! GO FOR RICE and not grain free....seems to me the safest....the issue of the new "grain free" diets having increased proportions of legumes (peas, chickpeas, lentils and/or various types of potatoes) that had been in pet foods for decades seems also to be a case of imbalance more than the ingredients themselves. dogs fed RAW got DCM significantly in the cases documented.

USA dog population I think was the basis of the study…10% of 77 million dogs is also not much. 
325 dogs afflicted of 77 million really, really isn’t much.

Noelle Obcarskas Another of MY pages...ok VEGAN CAT but still...out there publically visible...https://www.facebook.com/pg/Vegan-Cat-1049690971882165/posts/?ref=page_internal

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Noelle Obcarskas one of my youtube videos....we need a DOGS ONE ! https://youtu.be/JiJwSwS5kYo

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Noelle Obcarskashttps://www.facebook.com/TheVeganZombie/videos/10156580403527422/ VEGAN DOGS video of VEGAN ZOMBIE !

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Noelle Obcarskas another vegan dogs video...about dangers of meat based diets....https://www.facebook.com/wearethegoodnews/videos/353757885361416/

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Noelle Obcarskas another one on vegan dogs ! https://www.facebook.com/ilovemydogfans/videos/10155707195653673/

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Noelle Obcarskas dog food recalls in the news currently again...i have posted several times....my vegan fed dogs hyper picture of them gmo free and organic food vegan fed...https://www.facebook.com/CBSThi.../posts/2031767300210265...

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Noelle Obcarskas whoops hey...hundreds of comments made by me of these talks....this is bad news for dogs hey ! the tip of the iceberg of course...The Dogington Post
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**MASSIVE RECALL ALERT**
25 Varieties of Hill's Science Diet and Prescription Diet canned dog food have been recalled due to elevated Vitamin D. When consumed at very high levels, Vitamin D can lead to serious health issues in dogs including renal dysfunction.

Please PAW it forward! so i commented 2 times..one pic of my dogs and the VEGAN DOG FOOD TALKS lol ! ...https://www.facebook.com/Doging.../posts/2214009975303712...

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Noelle Obcarskas ok...so some forgotten by me person who kicked off some male turkey sounds CHUFF CHUFFING objections to Anne Heritage not being in on these talks....not having provided themselves any evidence of a single website done by them or her on this topic....but since i provided the details of the BRAMBLE DOG RECIPIES myself here in comments on this post hey....let us not WHINE or CHUFF CHUFF too much about that hey ! and i may now suffer BURNOUT of efforts and time spent just on this ONE POST alone let alone the countless hours spent online on youtube my done websites and other pages on facebook etc etc promoting VEGAN DOG AND CAT FOOD....I HOPE ! ANNE HERITAGE MANAGES TO DO 1 SINGLE PAGE ONE DAY and if she needs help or a FREE SPACE for that page on my SERVERS....I OFFER IT TO HER ! or anyone with a darned VEGAN DOG OR CAT ! a page on THIS WEBSITE OFFER ! i have pages on VEGAN CATS more than VEGAN DOGS there btw ! http://vegan-information.com/

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Noelle Obcarskas waiting ! for an INTELLECTURAL PROPERTY lawcase against me for PUTTING ANNE HERITAGE NAME and a PICTURE OF BRAMBLE HER DOG FROM AMAZON BOOK SALES on my webpage here ! http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Dogs_and_Cats.html seems to me....DON'T MENTION Anne Heritage and one gets a CHUFF CHUFF objection puff ! and also if one MENTIONS Anne Heritage or Bramble one gets CHUFF CHUFFS hey ! LET NO ONE READING THE COMMENTS IN THIS POST EVER CLAIM AGAIN THAT ANNE HERITAGE NAME HAS NOT BEEN MENTIONED ! IN ABUNDANCE ! as for whoever the other forgotten by me name of some dead nutritionist equal it was said to Anne in LEADERSHIP status was...EXCUSE ME I AM AN ACCOUNTANT not a WORDS skilled person ! I forget names ! i do not think my DOGS know what a NAME is either ! their names sound like ORDERS to them imho ! i do not give a TOSS what i call my dogs i call them SHIT FACTORIES even ! 4 legged shit factories ! are what DOGS are ! Some ELLIS woman name was it ? like Ruth Ellis ? who was she i dunno. Anyway. SHE DIDN't HAVE A WEB PAGE !

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Noelle Obcarskas oh deary me...about to be INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED for putting THESE photos of VEGAN CATS up hey too ? http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Cats_List_Examples.html

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Noelle Obcarskas i did not notice if these UK VEGAN DOG OWNERS mentioned BRAMBLE in their recent daily mail article on vegan dogs and cats ! maybe THEY have never heard of her like many others still ! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Is-mean-make-mutt-VEGAN.htmlSee More

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Noelle Obcarskas I had never...heard of Anne Heritage or Bramble or Dr Knight or ANY of these people talking when my dogs went vegan...the VET put them on prescription vegetarian dog food to cure ulcers ! I didn't SEARCH to find out if that was ok either...i got interested in MOI ! ME going vegan then. I got interested in some PCRM Dr Barnardo or name like that.who was at the time VILIFIED in the USA medical profession for suggesting vegan diets for humans....then now he is OK and listened to i read last. Anyway. He looked nice...and talked reasonably...so i listened to his youtube videos after the horror videos of VIVA on CRUEL BRITANNIA or word like that. http://vegan-information.com/Why_and_How_I_Went_Vegan.html It was an ECONOMIST article on how wild life was down 70 percent in the seas fishes article i was reading in bed that got me thinking FISH ! i hate fish eyes and suffocating fish so i thought....uh oh...the NUMBERS tell me this is CATASTROPHY time out there ...i didn't know the of the word VEGAN then either...i just thought ..ANIMAL FREE DIET for starters....THEN I JOINED VEGAN DOG NUTRITION GROUPS AND GOT BANNED ! stuff that i thought..As Oscar Wilde said..I WOULD NOT WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT DIDN'T WANT ME ! i will GO IT ALONE ! I tried joining some STREET VEGAN groups activists...THEY BANNED DOGS ! so STUFF THEM TOO I thought yeah! north Wales Vegans group refused to let me bring my dogs to some food street demo they were planning...I SAID I WILL COME WITH THEM ANYWAY but didn't. Chester street activists were fussing over the dogs wanting some of the food on their stalls too. Mamby pamby prats i thought. STUFF them. MY VEGAN DOGS WENT TO ALEXANDRA PALACE in LONDON VEGAN FESTIVAL ! oh ja ! we got inside and were promoting VEGAN DOGS there a while before asked to leave ! and in Manchester one ! lasted longer there...i went to pig saves and saw people with meat fed dogs there lol i resisted asking...waiting to get some pigs' ears are we ?

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Noelle Obcarskas were were with woshername...giletti ? anyway some GO VEGAN WORLD demo in Mancs too VEGAN DOGS RULE OK !

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Noelle Obcarskas ok shared to another page of mine https://www.facebook.com/chiensvegansvegetaliens/

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Noelle Obcarskas another page of mine shared this post. FCI CIE INTERNATIONAL GRAND CHAMPION BITCH BELGIAN SHEPHERD GROENENDAEL DOG VEGAN FED BLACK FAIRY OF THE VALLEY OF SPELLS from TOULOUSE FRANCE. https://www.facebook.com/pg/groenendaelfeenoiredelavalleedessortileges/posts/?ref=page_internal FEE NOIRE DE LA VALLEE DES SORTILEGES FCI CIE title. How about THAT for an ad for vegan dog food hey ? i kept quiet until she got her TITLE ! titles actually she is multi champion.

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Noelle Obcarskas ok now in comments of...PULFORD and CHESTER (where i am moderator so no one can BAN me lol !) and For the Love of Turkeys and Vegans with Chickens pages....piggy backing on this post comes the VEGAN DOG TALKS post lol ! https://www.facebook.com/groups/Pulford/permalink/301302577198770/ now one of the roofer workmen filming my turkeys here in this video was dealing with a chimney repair on a property of the Duke of Westminster Grosvenor name told me he was practically vegan as he had some long word disease he then explained was like Crohn's disease so no meat. Dogs get that too ? dunno. Anyway i added eating eggs and dairy would give prostate and breast cancers and fish were full of mercury plastics and toxins. (ppss oh just got a rant..."Noelle Obcarskas 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬 f#cking kill the dogs you pieces of shit! They are carnivores you dumb ass, brain washed f-^ktards" on some dog page post lol)

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Noelle Obcarskas ooh i say...this article of DOGS NATURALLY lists the top 10 foods that heal dogs ! all VEGAN ! https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/10-foods-to.../... Cranberries, Blueberries, Celery, Bell Peppers, Carrots, Broccoli, Bananas, Cantaloupe, Cabbage, Coconut oil.

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Noelle Obcarskas lol i agree I need to redo my blog website to just "bold" words or inverted commas which of course takes longer than capex....i BARK like a dog is my only excuse lol for "attention" ? i had to edit a whole load of comments done elsewhere to inverted commas once...took ages....excuse me if i do not do that for this post. I actually am not trying to BARK but emphasise words that inflections in verbal speech allows but not easy online.

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Noelle Obcarskas The worst aspect of domestic dogs is their "barking" in fact. Unlike wolves who do not bark incessantly at all only short barks by mother wolves to cubs to warn of danger little barks...we created not only massive problems creating designer breed dogs but a barking loot and source of neighbours' annoyances forever more with this barking selection. My most used orders to my dogs are to stop barking sigh.

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Noelle Obcarskas more scandals breaking new in the dog food world....raw toxic dog food maker refuses to recall...euthanasia drugs found in pet foods...recalls of excess vitamin D killing dogs in prescription also dog foods....commenting with link to these talks ! eg ! https://www.facebook.com/FansofAnimalRights/posts/2250642731662953

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Noelle Obcarskas must put links to recent recalls non recalls of raw pet foods found toxic and euthanasia of pet dogs and cats recent posts in another of my pages actually....put this post there...https://www.facebook.com/pg/rawfeedingunhealthy/posts/?ref=page_internal

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Why Raw Feeding of Cats and Dogs is Unnatural and Unhealthy

Why Raw Feeding of Cats and Dogs is Unnatural and Unhealthy

Noelle Obcarskas ooh i say.....yet MORE toxins in petfood...Salmonella in meat petfood...turkeys...Minnessota USA this one....commented there they have EVOLUTION VEGAN PETFOOD in that part of the world ! maxlife the latest suitable for kitten cats puppies dogs ! https://www.facebook.com/dvm360/posts/10155975807950965

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Noelle Obcarskas right. duty done for posting this post on pet food recall etc posts ...since some have said THEY WILL JOIN THIS TALK a success ! curious cats out there ! the ones i had to usual GRUNTS about "need meat" stuff i added my CAT for good measure....after all...when faced with DOGS cannot live without MEAT comments...might as well be hung for a sheep as much as a lamb as the expression goes....ADD THE CAT ! so i did. Just out of posting a set of pictures of my vegan cat to VEGANE KATZE group....I shall now sign off for digestion of words need. FRUHLING etwas raus bei BROCCOLI geliebt bei Katzen Mitternacht meine 1 Jahre Alte Katze Heute....muss ihre Webseite Blog Aktuel schaffen ....

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Noelle Obcarskas n.b. if anyone thinks i am failing to reply...it is simply that i cannot see if any further comments were made after a spat with a https://www.facebook.com/sonja.visscher.7 who has blocked me. Not a problem just saying if anyone thinks I am avoiding replying to this person that is not the case...i have been blocked. Which is ok too. The last comment i had made was that i was not a dog to take orders given to "drop it". We force our dogs to learn to obey such orders of course but I am not a dog.

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Noelle Obcarskas Well of course any "sponsored" ads of animal abuse dog food that appear on my timeline have to have a response too.....https://www.facebook.com/Butter.../posts/1084047315112709...

Noelle Obcarskas yeah apart from link to this talk post...and a pic of my running vegan fed dogs...ah i see a new term..PLANT POWERED ..right...anyway...added this link to some freebie factsheet on "plant powered dog food" ouff that is some mouthful sentence hey ! https://www.plantpowereddog.com/...

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Noelle Obcarskas hey up...this gets better ! 
Hi, Noelle!

Thank you for exercising your compassion and joining the Plant-Powered Dog movement! As our free welcome gift to you, we'd like to give you this Plant-Powered Dog Food Fact Sheet with some enlightening information about meat-based vs. plant-based dog nutrition.

We know you love your dog as much as we do (and that’s A LOT!), so we want to provide you with the truth about the current state of the pet food industry, the animal agriculture industry and the declining health of our canine companions so that you have the tools to help your best four-legged friend thrive and spend many long, healthy years by your side. 

We believe that feeding your canine companion a healthy, balanced diet rich in plants will result in a longer, healthier life for your dog, peace and respect for all animals and a cleaner, brighter future for our planet.

So, check out some of these compelling facts that may make you rethink the way you feed your beloved dog.

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P.S. We’ll be taking a deep dive into these fascinating facts in our first annual Plant-Powered Dog Food Summit launching March 12, 2019–where you’ll learn from 17 globally-renowned experts in the fields of vegan veterinary nutrition, science and animal activism during an enlightening, compassionate discussion on why and how to feed your dog a plant-based diet. Keep an eye on your emails for updates and stay tuned as we get ready to radically change the dog food industry, your dog's health, the lives of ALL animals and the health of the planet! Whoo hoo!!!

·  Noelle Obcarskas

Noelle Obcarskas Diana ? who is that ? Goddess of the Romans Hunt ? Artemis to the Greeks ? Princess Diana who did not hunt ? Grosvenor Duke of Westminster means Chief Huntsman and he died the day b4 the grouse shooting party started 9th August 2016 the 6th Duke age 64...goddess of the woods, children and childbirth, fertility, chastity, the moon, and wild animals.

·  Noelle Obcarskas

Noelle Obcarskas well that weekend was the party that was cancelled of course...August 12th marks the start of the grouse shooting season, although this year it falls on Monday 13th because it is illegal to shoot game birds on a Sunday in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. It is not illegal in Scotland, but the custom is observed. oooh that is interesting Sunday day of peace no grouse shooting day in England.

·  Noelle Obcarskas

Noelle Obcarskas found her....Diana Laverdure-Dunetz, Master’s in Animal Science (MS) is animal lover, ethical vegan, award-winning canine health writer, nutritionist and founder of Plant-Powered Dog.

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Noelle Obcarskas uh oh....TREATS ! eeek....i am anti treats...i see CAKES ! https://www.plantpowereddog.com/recipes/

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Noelle Obcarskas uh oh...yes they do TSHIRTS...but there was me saying I AM NOT A DOG and this lot want me to wear an I AM A PLANT POWER DOG tshirt ! https://shop.spreadshirt.com/plant.../women+t-shirts...

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Noelle Obcarskas now i can imagine the reactions in some parts of Chester to this...you BITCH ! lol !

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pre talks comments with Vegan Nation Marlene Narrow meme and links ! http://www.vegan-information.com/Vegan_Plant_Powered_Veggie_Food_Dogs_Petfood_Experts_Summit.htm Vegan.com Veganz Veganz Veganism Worldwide Billion Vegans Vegans Vegan The Vegan Society VeggiePets.com.com Lynn Crandall-Weisman Crandall-Weisman Animal Liberation Worldwide & Veganism Veganuary Cows Are Awesome Are Awesome Just cows Toronto Cow Save Just cows Mercy For Animals For PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) The Save Movement WWF Friends of the Earth

I just did a post in a website called Vegan Forum.

https://veganforum.org/threads/animals-are-not-ours-to-use-the-property-issue-ethically-and-philosophically.3671/#post-21247

I was at first for a long time confused about the word USE to understand this issue.

Using animals is the fundamental ethical philosophical issue essential to veganism.

ABUSE is the word we are more familiar with of course meaning "mistreatment" however that leads to the "welfare" attitude that condones ownership of PETS thinking so long as we "treat" them in our views that vary regarding that of course this justifies pet ownership.

However "owning" is "using" animals.

We justify this on the grounds of ?

1. They live longer less starved sick lives than if living free.

2. They could not in all domestic breeds we humans created and unnatural in numbers of them survive in the wild. Most would die after destroying all real ecosystem real wild life or die of diseases splats on the road starvation etc.

Regarding "pet food" this issue is very obviously a huge problem ideologically out there...some believe it is our duty to "save" pet dogs and cats or even snakes and then feed them bred by humans and killed by humans other animals.

However....this is "USING" animals as our "property" and adding speciesism to boot to the matter.

We cannot think we are only "responsible" for what we "own" personally if vegan and believing ALL animals "owned" by humans matter.

Our responsibility to the "victims" has to include ALL those domestic breed animals we humans have brought into existence and the goal is to STOP bringing them into existence so there would be no produced by humans animals to feed the preferred pet breed ones in the goal of a vegan world.

This would lead to the logical natural conclusion that there is no point in "saving" a dog or cat if by doing so we are then the cause of 3000 at least chicken size animals bred by humans deaths. MINIMAL HARM being a fundamental vegan principle.

http://vegan-information.com/Sonja%20Visscher%20lecture%20dr%20knight%20vegan%20dogs%20thread%20spat.docx

Some exchanges on a post to do with vegan dog food covered this dilemma incongruity in vegan philosophy well in that some think it is perfectly justifiable to breed and kill animals to feed a pet one.

However this goes against 2 fundamental vegan principles....

1. If "animals are not ours" to "use" we have no ethical "right" to do so

2. We are not practicing "minimal harm" vegan principle.

To "own" or "not to own" is the Hamlet question...and it is more "vegan" to "not own" obviously if accepting "animals are not ours" ethically to "use".

Pet ownership in reality is "not vegan" as we "own" animals.

The fact we choose the most "practical" ones to "own" that provide "us" with companionship and pleasure is "using" animals in reality and will continue to encourage pet ownership and ownership of animals by that example set. Speciesism means the unloved chickens turkeys sheep cows etc impractical to "get" in our homes are not saved but "used" to feed those we prefer to "use".

More vegans are now starting to realise this fundamental issue to veganism...ownership of pets and animals is fundamentally not vegan.

Currently only 27 percent of so called vegans feed their pets vegan....which shows how great this ideological issue is out there. However a new facebook group with information about the wrongs of pet ownership has been created.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/VegansAgainstPetOwnership/

This video talks about the issues well...

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Noelle Obcarskas interesting....new page commented on with these talks discovery of ..https://www.facebook.com/billio.../posts/2284455691770204...

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Noelle Obcarskas aha...they only sell V-Dog vegan dog food but lots of vegan dog collars and flavour enhancers ! useful for picky dogs ? not needed for mine but ! https://billionvegans.com/?s=dog+food&post_type=product

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Noelle Obcarskas it is SHE ! Diana organiser of this conference ! https://www.facebook.com/plantpowereddog/videos/2083954401687854/ ps note the "back to front" date protokol that USA uses different to Europe of putting the MONTH first then the DAY...it is MARCH ! the 12th ! start date ! 2019 !

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Noelle Obcarskas ooh i say...i don't want to "steal your thunder" but..."a picture tells a 1000 words" just found this on a Pitbull dogs rescue page ! raving about broccoli and carrots ! "Dogs that ate any green leafy vegetables, like broccoli, had reduced the risk of developing bladder cancer by 90% and the dogs that consumed any yellow – orange vegetables like carrots reduced the risk by 70%!

Seriously! A lousy carrot helped smash the potential of cancer. Today’s world is ever-so changing due to factory farmed livestock being fed genetically modified grains and our planet being contaminated with every type of pesticide, fungicide and larvicide, the importance of fresh, organic plant matter to help detox the body couldn’t be more crucial." ps of COURSE i posted these talks to them too.

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Noelle Obcarskas lol found a page called vegan pitbulls ! posted these talks there....https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php...

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Noelle Obcarskas Labrador dog page asked...can dogs go vegan ? all saying no...so i posted my dogs pic and these talks....https://www.facebook.com/theLab.../posts/2011822628899613... now for more animal abuse take dogs off her comments....

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Noelle Obcarskas Posh Paws Cockapoohs also informed of these talks ! https://www.facebook.com/origin.../posts/2019107214815504...

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Rosie the cockapoo looking SPOOKTACULAR after her scrub in #pawnatural #flowerpower#vegan friendly shampoo. She has a short but fluffy cut this helps to keep her cleaner and knot free x what a good GHOUL you were x

Noelle Obcarskas eeeek ! 877 members of the VEGAN BULLDOG group ! couldn't post talks there a closed group..https://www.facebook.com/groups/1399868723425822/

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Noelle Obcarskas ah Vegan Bulldogs pic here so posted talks there..https://www.facebook.com/.../pcb.../10156036208431444/...

Noelle Obcarskas posted talks on FRENCH BULLDOG eating carrotsvideo....carrots are very healthy to avoid cancer comment added too ! https://www.facebook.com/french.bulldog.breeder/videos/295608524500326/?t=49

Noelle Obcarskas BUBBLES ! the VEGAN BULLDOG picture posted talks on also ! https://www.facebook.com/.../a.442599.../471821883223431/...

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Noelle Obcarskas Noelle Obcarskas King Cav 15 year old healthy vegan fed dog found ! Kirsty Potempahttps://www.facebook.com/.../a.370345.../510964095923621/...

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Special guest in-store today 🐶 This is Honey, my King Charles Spaniel. She's 15 yrs old and thriving on her diet of vegan foods, supplements, and energy healing ✨✨✨ 
She has a pink aura and is a healer. She loves to sit quietly in your lap. 
If you're local stop by and meet her 💕

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Noelle Obcarskas We are Staffies informed of talks ! https://www.facebook.com/weares.../posts/1787202291563839...

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Noelle Obcarskas Labradoodles informed of the talks ! https://www.facebook.com/laura.../posts/1520461691322219...

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Do you feed yourself with your plant-based food? What about your furry family? Cats are known for carnivores and it is less controversial to feed a vegan diet, but dogs are a little questionable. They are categorized as carnivore yet they are most likely omnivores, therefore a vegan diet might help their health and longevity. My 6-year-young labradoodle Janieblu is a vegan since I got her at age of 8 months and my rescued one Jolly (age not known but presumably 5 years young) is vegan since 2011. They are both very healthy and no medical issue at all. I used to feed them #naturalbalancebut their new favorite is #vdog besides mama's homemade meal. What do you feed your dogs?

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November 23, 2017

When your Labradoodle develops a taste for vegan lip balm!!!! Cheers Rocky.

Noelle Obcarskas Vegan Labradoodle found ! https://www.facebook.com/.../a.226499.../239347282898838/...

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Noelle Obcarskas Labradoodle cured of IMHA disease on vegan v-dog food ! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153891417295029&set=gm.10151901056601981&type=3&theater

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I just adopted a 5 year old toy Poodle and her 11 week old son. He is due for his 11 week immunization and I'd love to get him started with a vegan vet in North County San Diego. I am in Carlsbad but don't mind traveling a little ways to get a more affordable veterinarian. Homeopathic natural doctor who blends western medicine with eastern medicine.

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Noelle Obcarskas The Vegan Sheepdog informed of the talks ! https://www.facebook.com/.../a.171104.../343804102904609/...

Noelle Obcarskas Vegan Pekinese found ! Cindy, our pekingese, eats a vegan kibble and wet food. I have absolutely zero concerns with her not meeting her nutritional requirements as her food, Vegan Natural Balance, is fortified with all the nutrients she absolutely needs.

When we first got her, her breath could knock down the Queen's army. It's still gross dog breath now haha but after a couple months of vegan eating, her breath has improved so much. Not only that, she doesn't have bad doggy odour anymore. We would bathe her and the next day she would smell very gamey. We have no idea how old she is but we reckon she's around 5-7 years old. She is an incredibly picky eater too so it's a delight that she eats her vegan dinner. Here's a great talk about the risks and benefits of putting your dog and cat on a vegan diet.https://www.facebook.com/amythechampion/posts/10153637224988886

Noelle Obcarskas Newfoundland vegan dogs ! https://www.facebook.com/.../a.19646.../2019982898263313/... The Live Food Jive - Manifesting the Real You
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Noelle Obcarskas Akita dog video loving his veggies ! https://www.facebook.com/loveahersa/videos/644742655732086/?t=24

Noelle Obcarskas Beryl Bales Bunky now 18 years old , National Flyball Champion and vegan :)https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155776515941930&set=p.10155776515941930&type=3&theater

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Maria Lara Dogs weren’t meant to be vegan. How dumb are you all?

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Plant-Powered Dog Maria Lara Domesticated dogs are omnivores and can thrive on a well-planned plant-based diet. Please check out our FAQ section and read it in its entirety for scientific facts on why this is true. We also have 17 of the most well-respected veterinarians, researchers and animal activists speaking about this subject in our Summit coming in March. You may want to check out the work of Dr. Andrew Knight who is a well-respected veterinary doctor and researcher for an alternative and interesting perspective. I have a vegan dog who has been thriving for years after being chronically ill on a meat-based diet. His blood panel just came back perfect again. It is also healing his hypothyroidism, as he was very ill on a meat-based diet. And one of the world’s longest living dogs who was at one point featured in the Guinness Book of World Records (lived 25 years according to the dog’s human companion), Bramble, was vegan. As always, no one diet is right for everyone. Your dog’s health is top priority but the scientific information is out there for the taking on dogs and plant-based diets, if interested. And according to my veterinarian, my dog’s diet is healthy and balanced and she supports it fully. The blood work and his improved and overall health do not lie. Be well. 🐾

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Tony Mitchell Maria Lara hi. Maybe do a little research into this because what we’ve been told to believe just isn’t true. 

Here’s my vegan baby. She is muscular and healthy. Good blood work and all❤️💕🌱 
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Christina Marie Meade Tony Mitchell That dog is hoping for an actual meal for once in its miserable life.

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Nick Stremmel Or you can POST these facts that you claim to have instead of just telling everyone to go to your page, Plant powered dog. What you did was the same as PETA linking to their own articles as proof of their bogus claims and outright lies.

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Cami Black *sigh* we cannot remove the blinders from all my friends.. let's instead rejoice with those that see the light ♡♡♡

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Tony Mitchell Christina Marie Meade you’re so silly 😜 💕

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Noelle Obcarskas put chocolate in front of a dog and ? watch it wolf it down and die. dogs are not nutrition savy

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Plant-Powered Dog Nick Stremmel Please go to our FAQ section and read it in its entirety. Our experts include researchers and veterinarians. You can also get facts from them if you prefer. We can agree to disagree. Be well. 🐾

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Joseph Bottenberg I've discussed dogs eating vegan diets with multiple veterinarians. They didn't even bat an eye, it's a non-issue. They are much more concerned with the overfeeding of pets in this country, regardless of which diet they are on, they're being fed too much in many cases.

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Plant-Powered Dog Tony Mitchell so beautiful! 😍🌱

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Plant-Powered Dog Christina Marie Meade Please be aware that your comments could be hurtful to others and one of the most important things during our short time on earth is how you make others feel. Please take good care of yourself. I hope you find a productive place for your misplaced aggression and we truly wish you well on your journey in life. 🧡

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Christina Marie Meade Dogs aren't meant to be vegan you dolts. They're carnivores by nature.

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Christina Marie Meade They can stomach special fruits and veggies but their entire diet isn't meant to be plant based. Ask any (actual) vet, not your biased "scientists". You're absolutely abominable if you think this is good for any dog. This is almost as bad as anti-vaxxers. Get a grip.

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Noelle Obcarskas in shock but hey peasants did not waste meat on dogs hunting dogs hyper energy were fed veggie slops and they thrived. now if animals are just things to use and kill dogs are not important and what we feed them trivia. kill this bred by humans animal to feed a serves no use other than pet dog ? not necessary. oh not a useful pet hey this in pain chicken

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Plant-Powered Dog Christina Marie Meade Domesticated dogs are omnivores and can thrive on a well-planned plant-based diet. Please check out our FAQ section and read it in its entirety for scientific facts on why this is true. We also have 17 of the most well-respected veterinarians, researchers and animal activists speaking about this subject in our Summit coming in March. You may want to check out the work of Dr. Andrew Knight who is a well-respected veterinary doctor and researcher for an alternative and interesting perspective. I have a vegan dog who has been thriving for years after being chronically ill on a meat-based diet. His blood panel just came back perfect again. It is also healing his hypothyroidism, as he was very ill on a meat-based diet. And one of the world’s longest living dogs who was at one point featured in the Guinness Book of World Records (lived 25 years according to the dog’s human companion), Bramble, was vegan. As always, no one diet is right for everyone. Your dog’s health is top priority but the scientific information is out there for the taking on dogs and plant-based diets, if interested. And according to my veterinarian, my dog’s diet is healthy and balanced and she supports it fully. The blood work and his improved and overall health do not lie. Be well. 🐾

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Plant-Powered Dog Christina Marie Meade You have also been banned from PPD for sending aggressive and threatening messages to us. We hope you will stop to look within. Our movement is about compassion and kindness, not abusive language. We welcome productive conversations and are here anytime for one, and can agree to disagree. What we do not tolerate is abuse. Please be well. 🙏🏼🧡

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Christina Marie Meade Sending abusive messages =/= telling you legitimate facts. Your dog wasn't sick from eating meat. Your dog ist thriving on a plant based diet. You're not going to take off as some big brand. You'll market only to the idiots who also believe vaccines cause autism. You are in joint with Peta who has a 98% kill rate in their shelters and doesn't know anything about animal care. You guys are jokes, your little "science" is a joke. Meat is something needed in a dog's diet, same as cats. You'll never rid that, and you'll only kill more animals by trying. Fix yourself, fix yourself your brand, and fix your idiotic ways. Thank you, Next.

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Plant-Powered Dog Christina Marie Meade Please take care of yourself. The abuse does not phase us, as my education and expertise is in mental health (unlike our founder whose Master’s degree is in Animal Science), so I understand your aggression comes from a place that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. My dog is thriving and I have the blood work to prove it (in fact, he is pictured above) but all that concerns me is he is finally healthy, not the assumption of others. Wishing you peace, love and much happiness. 🧡

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Tony Mitchell Plant-Powered Dog awe thanks ☺️. She says thanks too

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Dark Mountain

February 24 at 8:46 PM · 

Welcome Marmalade to the family. Part Pyrenees, part other… #vegan#govegan #rescue #adoptdontshop #dogs #plantbased #vegandogs#greatpyrenees #mutt #marmalade #dog #rescuedog #whatvegansdo#sanctuary #sanctuaryfamily
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Stephanie Pollice

October 7, 2012 ·

Meet Jingles. He is one of my two babies who are both VEGAN basset hounds (3 months apart, born in 2004). Both of my dogs have been vegan since June 2011. Jingles is VERY special because I believe he is a miracle dog. Here is his story:

Every year in March, I take both of my dogs to the veterinarian for their annual checkup, shots, etc. In March 2012, the veterinarian felt a mass in Jingles's spleen. Based on the following x-rays that were taken, she was almost certain it was a splenic tumor. She was unsure if it was benign (Hemangioma) or malignant (Hemangiosarcoma – aka “HSA”) though. She recommended Jingles to have a splenectomy (aka “removal of the spleen”) surgery immediately. The only way to know if a splenic tumor is benign or malignant is to have splenectomy, and send the spleen to a pathologist for biopsy.

If the tumor is Hemangioma, removing the spleen is curative provided that the patient has not lost too much blood to survive the surgery. However, if the tumor is HSA, the problem with HSA is that it is an aggressive cancer. With the removal of the spleen and primary tumor, the patient is probably spared death by bleeding to death only to eventually succumb to cancer, usually within 3 months or less. Approximately 60% of splenic masses in dogs end up as HSA. So, his odds were not wonderful.

I asked the veterinarian how long she thought the tumor had been present in his spleen. She said, based on the size, probably around 3 months. One thing to understand about splenic tumors in dogs is that when they are very small it is virtually impossible to detect the mass during a routine exam by simply feeling a dog’s spleen. Basically, there is a small window of time where it can be detected by touch before the spleen will rupture resulting in a dog to bleed to death. So, Jingles was lucky to have been at the doctor that day since the timing was very critical.

I decided to have the splenectomy done on Jingles. The veterinarian was shocked when the results of the biopsy from the pathologist came back. She had never seen anything like it before. It turned out that the pathologist was unable to find a tumor in Jingles’ spleen. The only thing the pathologist could find was a mild case of splenitis (aka “inflammation of the spleen”) and evidence of prior hemorrhage.

The causes of splenitis and splenic hemorrhage in dogs are:

(1) Gastric Dilatation/Volvulus – aka “GDV” or “Bloat”

(2) A traumatic event causing a sharp blow to the abdominal area, such as being hit by a car

(3) A splenic tumor

I know (1) and (2) above did not cause this in Jingles. I know this because either one of those would have been a trip to the Emergency Room. That never happened. All that remains is option (3). But, the biopsy said that it wasn’t a tumor either.

So, what happened to Jingles? I believe I know, but the veterinarian would think I’m crazy if I told her. I believe he had a tumor at one time, but given the time when he became vegan and the size of the “mass” when it was finally detected, the tumor was dissolved and all that was left was the damage it had done (the splenitis and hemorrhage). I believe this for two main reasons:

(1) The results of the experiments in “The China Study” which proved that cancerous tumor growth and shrinkage can be turned on and off by adding or removing animal protein in the diet. Learn more about research and findings from “The China Study” from Dr. T. Colin Campbell here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uth-FCyFgYo

(2) Splenic HSA is genetic. That is why it's more prominent in certain breeds like German Shepherds and Golden Retrievers. I called Jingles’ breeder to try to prove my theory of what happened wrong. But, in fact, his breeder told me that Jingles' Great Great Grandmother passed away from HSA of the spleen. That is his direct bloodline.

I’ll never be able to prove that Jingles is a cancer survivor for sure, but I truly believe he is one. I believe it is because he is vegan.

In any case, I'll NEVER feed my dogs carnivorous dog food EVER again. I've read and seen way too many things that are more disturbing than I could have ever imagined in my wildest dreams about dog food. I thought human food was REALLY bad when I first became enlightened about what's really in the food. Carnivorous dog food is about 1000 times worse if you ask me. Just check out this article written by Dr. Andrew Knight, a practicing vegan veterinarian: http://www.vegepets.info/…/Vegan-pets-Knight-Lifescape-2008….

The picture shown of Jingles was taken 3 days after his surgery in April 2012. He is still alive and more vibrant than ever. He is such a champion and a true inspiration if you ask me.

Listen to what vegan veterinarian, Dr. Armaiti May, says about a vegan diet for dogs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZX8WB7A5uE&feature=related

Finally, dogs can live on a supplemented, balanced vegan diet. My friend, Butterflies Katz, has raised dogs for 3 decades on a 100% vegan diet. If they can live a long-healthy life without participating in animal exploitation, why shouldn't they? Same goes for humans. If we can live just fine from the vegetable kingdom - why would we choose to harm and kill other sentient, fully feeling, perceptually-aware (sentient) animals? Animals living with us are NOT in the wild and therefore don't have to do what free-living animals do, in order to be nourished.

Read about Butterflies Katz’s personal experiences with vegan dogs:

http://www.veganpoet.com/articles/dogs-can-be-vegan-too.htm

http://thevegantruth.blogspot.com/se…/label/Dogs%20-%20Vegan

Also, check out this amazing piece of work that Butterflies Katz compiled. It contains the positive experiences of 100 vegan-eating dogs.

http://thevegantruth.blogspot.com/…/100%20Vegan-Eating%20Do…

Check out Butterflies Katz's facebook group. It’s a group called "Vegan Dog Nutrition": https://www.facebook.com/groups/vegandognutrition/

Thanks for taking the time to read my (somewhat lengthy) story.

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Vegan Primitive Malamute dog ! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1809407059119278&set=pcb.1809407519119232&type=3&theater Pierre Roland Roy-Parent

May 23, 2018 ·

Dogs can thrive on a healthy plant-based diet. Our husky/malamute companion has been doing just that for about three years now. Sweetheart Aura says hi! Check out this website for any concerns you may have: http://www.plantbased.dog/

Pierre Roland Roy-Parent Aura (she) eats Max Life from Evolution Foods. We purchase it from a distributor in Toronto called VECADO (VEgan CAts and DOgs). GREAT COMPANY so knowledgeable ! They have been great the entire time we have dealing with them (July, 2015). Whenever we have a question, they are there for us.

Vegan Cockapoos in action lol !

https://www.facebook.com/veganiq/videos/3988062628077/

February just recently the FDA issued warning about many dog foods having excess Vitamin D in dog foods...

This was after a few months ago more recalls...recalls include Prescription Hills even in lists going around...so worth checking.

Some petfood manufacturers started obviously ADDING more Vitamin D as lack of this leads to increased CANCER risks in dogs...but EXCESS is also dangerous.

KIDNEY FAILURE and DEATH are the risks.

In this list some brands has over 70 TIMES the recommended levels !

So I share 2 links with lists.

https://www.today.com/pets/dog-food-recalled-due-toxic-levels-vitamin-d-t144435

https://wisemindhealthybody.com/wmhb/huge-dog-food-recall-toxic-vit-d/

Found this interesting picture with Vegan cancer prevention claims....

So i went searching....and it seems in line with what other dog nutrition experts state !

a picture tells a 1000 words" just found this on a Pitbull dogs rescue page ! raving about broccoli and carrots ! "Dogs that ate any green leafy vegetables, like broccoli, had reduced the risk of developing bladder cancer by 90% and the dogs that consumed any yellow – orange vegetables like carrots reduced the risk by 70%!

Seriously! A lousy carrot helped smash the potential of cancer. Today’s world is ever-so changing due to factory farmed livestock being fed genetically modified grains and our planet being contaminated with every type of pesticide, fungicide and larvicide, the importance of fresh, organic plant matter to help detox the body couldn’t be more crucial."

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/top-foods-for-preventing-cancer-in-dogs/

States....the top foods to prevent cancer in dogs are...

The National Cancer Institute says emphatically that many cancers can be prevented by making appropriate lifestyle changes. In fact, National Cancer Institute studies show that 35 percent of all human cancers can be attributed to dietary imbalances. An estimated 80 to 90 percent of all cancers are preventable by lifestyle choices.

It’s no different for your dog. A healthy diet is the first step toward cancer prevention. Simply avoiding toxins is not enough, as it’s important to give your dog the tools to not only dump carcinogens but to also boost the immune system so it can kill any newly created cancer cells.

While you’re reading this, the antioxidants in your dog’s body are countering the destructive forces of free radicals. His immune system is locating and destroying abnormal cells. His genes are making proteins to repair damage done by carcinogens. These natural processes are helping your dog resist cancer.

The Power of Green

A study conducted by researchers from Oregon State University has found that chlorophyll in green vegetables blocks the absorption of intensely carcinogenic aflatoxins (found in many kibbles, especially those containing corn). What this means is that green leafy vegetables and other sources of chlorophyll in your dog’s diet will help prevent this carcinogen and others from even entering the bloodstream.

Chlorophyll in green vegetables blocks the absorption of intensely carcinogenic aflatoxins (found in many kibbles, especially those containing corn) … green leafy vegetables and other sources of chlorophyll in your dog’s diet will help prevent this carcinogen and others from even entering the bloodstream.

Ethoxyquin, once a commonly used preservative in dog food, is a carcinogen. Consumer outrage brought about significant changes in the way dog food is manufactured today; when dog owners learned that ethoxyquin could promote cancer they wrote letters to manufacturers and government representatives. Consequently, most pet food manufacturers removed ethoxyquin from dog foods in the early 1990s. But one little known fact is that fish slated for pet food still contains ethoxyquin. While at sea, boat crews are permitted to add it to fish and fishmeal slated for pet food, to prevent spoilage. This does not have to be disclosed on product labeling.

It bears repeating: a diet filled with cancer preventing foods can help the system dump unexpected carcinogens more quickly.

[Related: Cancer-Causing Aflatoxins Found In Dog Foods]

Food as Medicine

Research has proven that proper nutritional support with phytochemicals helps prevent cells from developing into malignant cancerous growths. Phytochemicals are organic compounds found in plants. They both prevent and fight disease and have been used as medicines for millennia. When Hippocrates said, “Let food be thy medicine,” he probably never imagined his words would be proven in scientific laboratories 2,000 years later.

The phytonutrients in superfoods work within the body for a much longer time period than vitamins and minerals do. Organically grown fruits and vegetables give the best benefit because they are far richer in minerals and enzymes. They can be fed raw, lightly steamed or grated and mixed in your dog’s food.

[Related: Astaxanthin For Dogs: Protect Against Cancer, Joint Pain And More!]

Cancer in Dogs: Prevention with Vitamins

Vitamin D3 has become all the rage, with scientists learning how very important it is for immune function and cancer prevention. Interestingly, Vitamin D3 is a hormone and affects mood. It’s thought that one cause for Seasonal Affective Disorder (winter depression) in people is insufficient Vitamin D3. It’s also now thought that dogs are not getting all the D3 they need. I wonder if perhaps the increase in behavioral disorders such as separation anxiety, along with cancer, can in part be attributed to insufficient active D3.

The new kids on the block are the tocotrienols. Tocotrienols are the lesser-known forms of biologically active vitamin E. They’re powerful antioxidants and anticancer agents. A study published in a 2008 issue of the British Journal of Cancer found that they trigger cancer cell death and block the spread of cancer cells. In another study, published in a 2010 issue of Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry, researchers found that tocotrienols also decrease the invasion and spread of cancer cells.

[Related: New Study Shows Dogs with Low Vitamin D Are At Risk For Cancer]

What To Feed and Why

For Phytochemicals:

Kale – rich in carotenoids, which scavenge free radicals (harmful by-products of cell metabolism in the body). Phytonutrients in kale clear carcinogenic substances out of cells.

Broccoli – contains compounds that inhibit the effect of carcinogens and boost production of cancer blocking enzymes

Cruciferous vegetables, such as cabbage, bok choi, turnips, rutabagas, mustard greens and Brussels sprouts – contain substances that demonstrate the genuine ability to protect your dog from cancer

Blueberries and raspberries – rich in antioxidants

ps be careful NOT to overdose VIT D as feb 2019 massive recalls of overdoses in VITD in even prescription dog foods with mortal effects reported everywhere.

Here is one list off links found...

TOXIC LEVELS OF VIT D recalled food. The list of recalled dry dog food products provided to the FDA include:

Nutrisca

Chicken and Chickpea Dry Dog Food

UPC 8-84244-12495-7 – 4 lb. bag

UPC 8-84244-12795-8 – 15 lb. bag

UPC 8-84244-12895-5 – 28 lb. bag

Best by date range: February 25, 2020 through September 13, 2020

Natural Life Pet Products

Chicken & Potato Dry Dog Food

UPC 0-12344-08175-1 – 17.5 lb. bag

Best by dates range: December 4, 2019 through August 10, 2020

Sunshine Mills, Inc.

Evolve Chicken & Rice Puppy Dry Dog Food

UPC 0-73657-00862-0 – 14 lb. bag

UPC 0-73657-00863-7 – 28 lb. bag

Sportsman’s Pride Large Breed Puppy Dry Dog Food

UPC 0-70155-10566-0 – 40 lb. bag

UPC 0-70155-10564-0 – 40 lb. bag

Triumph Chicken & Rice Recipe Dry Dog Food

UPC 0-73657-00873-6 – 3.5 lb. bag

UPC 0-73657-00874-3 – 16 lb. bag

UPC 0-73657-00875-0 – 30 lb. bag

ANF, Inc.

ANF Lamb and Rice Dry Dog Food

UPC 9097231622 – 3 kg bag

Best by Nov 23 2019

UPC 9097203300 – 7.5 kg bag

Best by Nov 20 2019

Lidl (Orlando brand)

Orlando Grain-Free Chicken & Chickpea Superfood Recipe Dog Food

Lidl product number 215662

TI1 3 Mar 2019

TB2 21 Mar 2019

TB3 21 Mar 2019

TA2 19 Apr 2019

TB1 15 May 2019

TB2 15 May 2019

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Abound Chicken and Brown Rice Recipe Dog Food

UPC 11110-83556 – 4 lb. bag, all lots

UPC 11110-83573 – 14 lb. bag

All lot codes

UPC 11110-89076 – 24 lb. bag

All lot codes

ELM Pet Foods, Inc.

ELM Chicken and Chickpea Recipe

UPC 0-70155-22507-8 – 3 lb. bag

D2 26 FEB 2019

TE1 30 APR 2019

TD1 5 SEP 2019

TD2 5 SEP 2019

UPC 0-70155-22513-9 – 28 lb. bag

TB3 6 APR 2019

TA1 2 JULY 2019

TI1 2 JULY 2019

ELM K9 Naturals Chicken Recipe

UPC 0-70155-22522-9 – 40 lb. bag

TB3 14 Sep 2019

TA2 22 Sep 2019

TB2 11 Oct 2019

Ahold Delhaize

Nature’s Promise Chicken & Brown Rice Dog Food

UPC 068826718472 – 14 lb. bag

All lot codes

UPC 068826718471 – 28 lb. bag

All lot codes

UPC 068826718473 – 4 lb. bag

All lot codes

Nature’s Place Real Country Chicken and Brown Rice Dog Food

UPC 72543998959 – 5 lb. bag

All lot codes

UPC 72543998960 – 15 lb. bag

All lot codes

The recalled products were sold nationwide.

"THOUGHT I SHOULD SHARE THIS AFTER I HEARD TODAY, THAT A FRIEND'S DOG IN EIGHT ASH GREEN, HAD BEEN REALLY POORLY, AS WELL AS FOAMING AT THE MOUTH BECAUSE OF HIS FOOD - HILL'S SCIENCE PLAN HAD TOO HIGHER AMOUNT OF VIT D IN IT. PET'S AT HOME, WHERE THEY'D BOUGHT THE FOOD, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE RECALL, NOR DID THEIR VET THE ARK IN PRETTYGATE - WHO DIDN'T TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY BY ALL ACCOUNTS!! PLEASE BE AWARE IF YOU USE THIS FOOD & CHECK THE BATCH NUMBERS."

February 2019......FDA issues list of 31 dog foods with EUTHANASIA in them....recalls some but some raw food suppliers refuse to recall...https://wjla.com/features/7-on-your-side/dog-foods-pulled-from-shelves-nationwide-after-abc7-investigation-finds-euthanasia-drug. PET DOGS AND CATS IN PET FOODS ! well where do we think destroyed shelter rescue dogs and cats go ? 

WASHINGTON (ABC7) — Retailers pulled at least 31 varieties of dog food off the shelves nationwide after a months-long investigation found the euthanasia drug, pentobarbital.

After releasing the results of lab tests that identified the drug, the FDA launched an investigation. And now, just days later, Smucker’s, the owner of almost all the brands in question, announcing a voluntary withdrawal. It includes products in the Gravy Train, Kibbles ‘N Bits, Skippy and Ol’ Roy lines of canned food.

Retailers, including the nation's largest, Walmart, removed it from all 4,700 stores.

THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG ! dogs get poorly from lesser amounts. 

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Noelle Obcarskas That person actually...name forgotten but the "save the planet rape by shit" ranter person and "you vegans" orders giver...strikes me as a typical "needs a dog" person ...why ? someone to give ORDERS to that cannot object to them lol ! i often think people have dogs as they are easier to give orders to than humans....unfortunately many dog owners are insufferable with other human beings as they do not learn to "stop the orders" when talking to humans not dogs lol ! we had such a case earlier on in this thread actually.

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Noelle Obcarskas In conclusion...besides pet shit being 30 percent of human shit in the USA alone that has to be waste disposal treated and reduction of real wild life and passed on diseases effect of pets...In the US, there are more than 163 million dogs and cats that consume, as a significant portion of their diet, animal products and therefore potentially constitute a considerable dietary footprint. 30 percent effect has been calculated as the PET EFFECT on the environment due to PET FOOD alone if non vegan.

Noelle Obcarskas So ? besides 3000 chicken size animal lives bred and killed to feed 1 pet dog over 1 lifetime ... we have 30 percent of the diet footprint effect on the environment negative factor of feeding a pet dog non vegan. 300 gallons of water...1 square foot of forest..1lb of co2...10lbs (5kg) of grain PER DAY. AND 30 % of shit treatment disposal of dog pooh environmental effects and costs.

Noelle Obcarskas Despite the fact that more than 60% of US households have pets, these consumers of agricultural products are rarely included in calculations of the environmental impact of dietary choices. NON PET OWNERS and the starving children and real wild life of this world sure are affected negatively by PET OWNERSHIP and most importantly NON VEGAN PET FEEDING. 30 percent...of the negative effects of animal agriculture are caused by non vegan pet feeding.

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Noelle Obcarskas 30 percent...of the negative effects of animal agriculture are caused by non vegan pet feeding.

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Noelle Obcarskas Oh btw....i refute the assumption of this post comment that having a pet and feeding them a vegan diet is RAPING THE PLANET. The poster failed to put the question correctly and then jumped to assumptions lol. It is FAR less raping the planet to feed a pet dog vegan than non vegan. As the figures provided show. Now any live human could be said to be partly "raping the planet" by using planetary resources is why I say FAR LESS. Since we are not suggesting all us 9 billion humans exterminate ourselves to "save the planet" resources I do not suggest we should inflict that on non human animals either. That PETS are out of control in terms of numbers in existence and that we already ABUSE them by castrating and keeping them prisoners is unfortunate. The extinction of domestic breed animals is a worthwhile goal. In the meantime...feeding them VEGAN reduces their environmental damage by 30 percent as the figures provided show.

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Noelle Obcarskas In order to feed a dog non vegan....we abuse 3000 bred by humans chicken size animals over 1 dog lifetime. More if fed fish. Those lives of animals humans breed and kill matter. It is RAPING cows to produce calves we humans take away from their mothers and kill to put in BEEF labelled pet food. We have additionally RAPED the planet by growing as figures provided show 5kg per day of plant feed for farmed animals and 300 gallons of water per day and 1 square foot of forest..1lb of co2 PER DAY to feed a dog non vegan. Billions of 1 day old male chicks are suffocated to death or ground up alive so actually the numbers of DEATHS for 1 dog if fed non vegan are enormous. All those deaths earn big money to the animal agriculture industry pollute the planet etc etc. CHICKEN labelled dog food is the product of killing billions of male 1 day old chicks..called "by products" ? come on....they EARN big money for PET FOOD. 6 BILLION MALE CHICKS PER YEAR world wide.

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Found this interesting picture with Vegan cancer prevention claims....

So i went searching....and it seems in line with what other dog nutrition experts state !

a picture tells a 1000 words" just found this on a Pitbull dogs rescue page ! raving about broccoli and carrots ! "Dogs that ate any green leafy vegetables, like broccoli, had reduced the risk of developing bladder cancer by 90% and the dogs that consumed any yellow – orange vegetables like carrots reduced the risk by 70%!

Seriously! A lousy carrot helped smash the potential of cancer. Today’s world is ever-so changing due to factory farmed livestock being fed genetically modified grains and our planet being contaminated with every type of pesticide, fungicide and larvicide, the importance of fresh, organic plant matter to help detox the body couldn’t be more crucial."

https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/top-foods-for-preventing-cancer-in-dogs/

States....the top foods to prevent cancer in dogs are...

The National Cancer Institute says emphatically that many cancers can be prevented by making appropriate lifestyle changes. In fact, National Cancer Institute studies show that 35 percent of all human cancers can be attributed to dietary imbalances. An estimated 80 to 90 percent of all cancers are preventable by lifestyle choices.

It’s no different for your dog. A healthy diet is the first step toward cancer prevention. Simply avoiding toxins is not enough, as it’s important to give your dog the tools to not only dump carcinogens but to also boost the immune system so it can kill any newly created cancer cells.

While you’re reading this, the antioxidants in your dog’s body are countering the destructive forces of free radicals. His immune system is locating and destroying abnormal cells. His genes are making proteins to repair damage done by carcinogens. These natural processes are helping your dog resist cancer.

The Power of Green

A study conducted by researchers from Oregon State University has found that chlorophyll in green vegetables blocks the absorption of intensely carcinogenic aflatoxins (found in many kibbles, especially those containing corn). What this means is that green leafy vegetables and other sources of chlorophyll in your dog’s diet will help prevent this carcinogen and others from even entering the bloodstream.

Chlorophyll in green vegetables blocks the absorption of intensely carcinogenic aflatoxins (found in many kibbles, especially those containing corn) … green leafy vegetables and other sources of chlorophyll in your dog’s diet will help prevent this carcinogen and others from even entering the bloodstream.

Ethoxyquin, once a commonly used preservative in dog food, is a carcinogen. Consumer outrage brought about significant changes in the way dog food is manufactured today; when dog owners learned that ethoxyquin could promote cancer they wrote letters to manufacturers and government representatives. Consequently, most pet food manufacturers removed ethoxyquin from dog foods in the early 1990s. But one little known fact is that fish slated for pet food still contains ethoxyquin. While at sea, boat crews are permitted to add it to fish and fishmeal slated for pet food, to prevent spoilage. This does not have to be disclosed on product labeling.

It bears repeating: a diet filled with cancer preventing foods can help the system dump unexpected carcinogens more quickly.

[Related: Cancer-Causing Aflatoxins Found In Dog Foods]

Food as Medicine

Research has proven that proper nutritional support with phytochemicals helps prevent cells from developing into malignant cancerous growths. Phytochemicals are organic compounds found in plants. They both prevent and fight disease and have been used as medicines for millennia. When Hippocrates said, “Let food be thy medicine,” he probably never imagined his words would be proven in scientific laboratories 2,000 years later.

The phytonutrients in superfoods work within the body for a much longer time period than vitamins and minerals do. Organically grown fruits and vegetables give the best benefit because they are far richer in minerals and enzymes. They can be fed raw, lightly steamed or grated and mixed in your dog’s food.

[Related: Astaxanthin For Dogs: Protect Against Cancer, Joint Pain And More!]

Cancer in Dogs: Prevention with Vitamins

Vitamin D3 has become all the rage, with scientists learning how very important it is for immune function and cancer prevention. Interestingly, Vitamin D3 is a hormone and affects mood. It’s thought that one cause for Seasonal Affective Disorder (winter depression) in people is insufficient Vitamin D3. It’s also now thought that dogs are not getting all the D3 they need. I wonder if perhaps the increase in behavioral disorders such as separation anxiety, along with cancer, can in part be attributed to insufficient active D3.

The new kids on the block are the tocotrienols. Tocotrienols are the lesser-known forms of biologically active vitamin E. They’re powerful antioxidants and anticancer agents. A study published in a 2008 issue of the British Journal of Cancer found that they trigger cancer cell death and block the spread of cancer cells. In another study, published in a 2010 issue of Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry, researchers found that tocotrienols also decrease the invasion and spread of cancer cells.

[Related: New Study Shows Dogs with Low Vitamin D Are At Risk For Cancer]

What To Feed and Why

For Phytochemicals:

Kale – rich in carotenoids, which scavenge free radicals (harmful by-products of cell metabolism in the body). Phytonutrients in kale clear carcinogenic substances out of cells.

Broccoli – contains compounds that inhibit the effect of carcinogens and boost production of cancer blocking enzymes

Cruciferous vegetables, such as cabbage, bok choi, turnips, rutabagas, mustard greens and Brussels sprouts – contain substances that demonstrate the genuine ability to protect your dog from cancer

Blueberries and raspberries – rich in antioxidants

ps be careful NOT to overdose VITAMIN D as feb 2019 massive recalls of overdoses in VITAMIN D in even prescription dog foods with mortal effects reported everywhere. All NON VEGAN DG FOODS of course. 

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Richard Pitcairn

October 14, 2018

I just saw a video promotion by Dr. Marty Goldstein, who has developed his own cat food product. The claim is great health for cats that eat it, however when you look at the ingredients it is rather shocking. It is almost entirely meat and organs from animals. It even includes salmon which I am guessing is farm raised since wild salmon is both difficult to acquire in today’s dwindling oceans and also very expensive. What is shocking is how this formula is promoted as the most natural and healthy and absolutely NO mention of the toxic chemicals that will be in these meats and eggs that will accumulate in the cats that are eating them. Why is it that so many veterinarians that call themselves “holistic” are not aware of this? It is not a secret.

Because they are eating so high on the food chain (like most people) they will be getting a significant load of these environmental chemicals which eventually have effects on their health. In the first study of its kind, the Environmental Working Group found that American pets are polluted with even higher levels of many of the same synthetic industrial chemicals that researchers have recently found in people.

The results of the study shows that America’s pets are serving as involuntary sentinels of the widespread chemical contamination that scientists increasingly link to a growing array of health problems across a wide range of animals—wild, domesticated and human.

Dogs and cats were contaminated with 48 of 70 industrial chemicals tested, including 43 chemicals at levels higher than those typically found in people, according to the study of plastics and food packaging chemicals, heavy metals, fire retardants, and stain-proofing chemicals in pooled samples of blood and urine from 20 dogs and 37 cats collected at a Virginia veterinary clinic.

Teflon chemicals: PFCs (Perfluorochemicals) were 2.4 times higher than in people. 
Fire retardants: PBDEs (Polybrominated diphenyl ethers): 23.4 times higher than in people.

Mercury: 5.4 times higher than in people.

Average levels of many chemicals were substantially higher in pets than is typical for people, with 2.4 times higher levels of stain- and grease-proof coatings (perfluorochemicals) in dogs, 23 times more fire retardants (PBDEs) in cats, and more than 5 times the amounts of mercury, compared to average levels in people found in national studies conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Environmental Working Group.

It is very important to understand that these chemicals accumulate in the tissues of animals that are picking them up from the environment — animals in pastures and feedlots. When these animals are then killed and eaten by other animals, the dose just increases exponentially.
The highest amount will be on those animals eating the most meat and dairy products as this is where the dose of these substances is the greatest (thousands or millions greater than found in the soil or water).

How can these facts be ignored by veterinarians? It is a mystery to me. It is like a blind spot. Perhaps they think these findings are not real? That the studies flawed? The Environmental Working Group collected blood and urine from dogs and cats to do the analysis. It is difficult to see how it could be done more accurately. Nonetheless, the results are ignored and the message of feeding large quantities of meat to dogs and cats goes on. We can only hope that some day there will be an awakening of understanding.

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Page 3   the ENVIRONMENTAL spat is....  click on ENVIRONMENTAL SPAT

http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Dogs_and_Cats.html  further information and links to information on dog and cat and ferret vegan pet foods.

Nestle, Unilever, Mars, Coca Cola, Associated British Foods,  Mondelos/Kraft, General Milk, Kelloggs Danone, PepsiCo  the big 10 companies of FOOD are the BIGGEST WORLD POLLUTERS ! and BIG ADVERTISING BUDGETS to shove their food products in all our faces constantly ! governments afraid to upset them or contradict them or tell us the TRUTH about the harming the animals our health and the planet effects they are having ! as it was for the tobacco industry for DECADES we were told smoking doesn't cause cancer lol ! aha...Heinz the baked beans manufacturer are now of course owned by usa multinational Kraft and have NO VEGAN LABEL on even their baked beans but OTHER  ORGANIC BAKED BEANS sold in uk supermarkets do !

Forget taking a shower instead of a bath trivial hype...don't eat a flesh burger saves many times more WATER for the planet and asthma costs of air pollution due to excrements of mass numbers of animals. The cost of a glass of milk isn't just deaths of baby cows born forcibly every year to be killed for mother cows to produce unnatural for humans unhealthy milk...it is pollution disease and flood defences due to climate changes cause MORE by animal agriculture than all the cars driving on our roads ! bullshit about diesel emissions when MORE THAN HALF the air pollution is caused by ANIMAL EXCREMENTS ! Asthma alone costs the NHS billions ! it wafts over as far as LONDON from East Anglia of course never mind also in the fields right next to us ! and that tosser Cameroon tried blaming the RUSSIANS for not being able to go jogging outside due to STAY INDOORS ammonia air pollution at muck spreading time Political Lies again !

Now. I think like most vegans that IGNORANCE is why anyone doesn't make CHANGES needed to anything in our lives. I like most was IGNORANT of even the way cows milk didn't just flow on tap without producing babies that were taken away AT ONCE and KILLED ! or that male baby chickens are ground up ALIVE as part of the EGG industry ! this is barbaric ! but when you don't realise...that animals bred today are FREAKS that suffer pain in chests and legs as part of the norm of their aweful purpose of existence we human farmers have done to get more money out of these verbally handicapped living creatures...well...ignorance about WE DONT NEED THEM AS FOOD even as it is POISONING us...

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Reasons WHY....

How and why I personally became/went Vegan...

Millennials Driving the Future Move to a Vegan World Children of the Future

Breaking News

Wildlife_extinction_decline_Animal_Agriculture_Causes (land used to grow  GMO farm animal food, excrement pollution of water killing marine life, climate change)

GOT THE VEGAN TSHIRT ! VEGAN SWEATSHIRT AND VEGAN HOODIE ! where I found my favorites...practical !

VEGAN VULTURE !  Gypohierax angolensisPalm Nut Vulture.

Fun stuff...how one UK Supermarket Tesco desperately tries to save the falling massively dairy industry rip off cruel unhealthy industry with misleading adverts lol !

  Health Reasons Facts for Veganism and a special page for Where do you/ I get your/my Protein from ?

https://goveganworld.com/download-free-vegan-guide/

Environmental Reasons for Veganism

WHY NOT VEGAN arguments and reasons given

Religious Reasons for Veganism in 1 word it is COMPASSION/LOVE..start page...16th feb  2017

Vegan Food Labelling in UK British Supermarkets...7th March 2017 in one word..is a "MESS". Label with "WHITE V and word VEGAN underneath" or buy Raw and learn to cook delicious food and spirulla it.

Vegan Organisations Links

VALENTINES day, Easter Egg and other Vegan Chocolates

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Vegan Books Vegan Cooking Books and Vegan Guides Free, Cheap and Normal prices

Pets_are_not_vegan_domestic_animals_freedom.html

Vegan Cats and Dogs Thriving on healthy Vegan plant based food

http://bitesizevegan.com/

FOOD ! British SUPERMARKET pictures of Vegan Food Finds lol ! started 6th Mar 2017 to sort out more...

Vegan Events Festivals Vegfests 2017

Other page links to come, vegan athletes, vegan videos of animal agriculture realities, famous people vegans etc

One to tickle the fancy started.. Living Role model .Body Builder Personal Trainer Hin Chun Chui

Vegan Athletes

Industry Specific Pages to be done...Dairy, Meat, Poultry, Fish, Insects, Clothing Fur and Leather, Cosmetics

Mostly simple MEME PICTURE pages with clear concise messages and links to other pages of information facts

Milk_Dairy_Industry_Realities    Fish Realities

Milk_Dairy_Realities.html

Poultry Chicken  Duck Quail Turkey Pheasant Grouse Farm Realities

Those are the NICE pages, then there are THE DARK SIDE PAGES. Links to show the hidden truths and realities.

The Dark Side. Meet your Meat, Fish, Milk and Egg realities.

http://www.80spopanimals.com/farmanimals

Meat and using animals is a choosing to make a choice to kill someone else...that involves taking away choice...from the victim.

http://vegan-information.com/Animals_Killed_for_food.html

vegan-information.com/Abolitionist_Vegan_Quotes.html

BREAKING NEWSFLASH 22 NOVEMBER 2017...not only in Knightsbridge is there now growing VEGAN FOOD in supermarkets ROSSETT VILLAGE STORES in NORTH WALES CYMRU  EUROPE before BREXIT also ! The Future is...VEGAN !  

CHRISTMAS RESCUED TURKEYS arrive in Pulford Chester Cheshire to become VEGAN ACTIVISTS..time people got to know WHO was that unrecognisable piece of dead body on their plates that they do not need to live healthily...http://vegan-information.com/Black_Christmas_Bronze_Turkeys_Vegan_Activists.html we do not realise or associate what we eat with a living person. TOFURKY is EASILY far tastier and healthier than dead bodies as food ! 

Peace on Earth...starts with removing VIOLENCE from our plates. Christmas, Xmas, Hanukka etc religious festivals if celebrations of DEATH on PLATES are irrelevant.  Peace_on_Earth.html

Little Tyke was a Vegan Lioness by choice ...famous in the USA...ALL animals can become VEGAN it is all about nutrition needs to thrive ! http://vegan-information.com/Vegan_Rescue_Kitten_New_Little_Tyke_Midnight_Hannukah_Capricorn.html

Webpage created start date 12th Feb 2017. It doesn't matter what we think most people currently think or do...if we think we can do something good even if we think it small and insignificant...it makes a difference. As the fairy queen said to Frodo in the Lord of the Rings...even the smallest person in the world can make a difference. ONE makes a difference. of about 11 thousand killed land animals and 10 thousand marine animals totalling 22 THOUSAND ANIMALS BRED AND KILLED for 1 human flesh eater lifetime, just for FOOD ! Totally unnecessarily. Just to put a FIGURE to what 1 PERSON can achieve ! SUCCESS !

Every time we refuse to buy a dead animal product we affect the future avoidable deaths of those bred in the future. Vote with our Wallets and Demand Non Animal, Healthy, Natural Food as much as possible.

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